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Google Calendar: be afraid Microsoft, be very afraid | |
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| Time: 09:38 EST/14:38 GMT | News Source: *Linked Within Post* | Posted By: Chris Hedlund | ||
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The latest Google web service offering, Google Calendar, may not be the end all and be all of desktop organisers. It may not have any special features that cannot be found in other organiser products, such as Microsoft Outlook. However, it is just one more nail in the coffin of the old software paradigm that Microsoft made its own in the 1980s. It seems that not a week goes by without Google announcing some new free software service that can be accessed from a web browser. It is busily building a bunch of direct competitors to Microsoft in both the web services and desktop space. GMail of course competes with rivals Microsoft Hotmail and Yahoo! Mail in the free email market. It is, however, on the desktop where Microsoft makes most of its money and it is the desktop which Google threatens to make redundant for many users. | ||
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| #1 By 415 (69.245.184.81) at 4/15/2006 11:39:45 AM |
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Oh, please...
Just because you AJAXify a web calendar app and release it to a few thousand users, it doesn't mean you're competing with MS Outlook. ... or even Hotmail and Yahoo for that matter. |
| #2 By 9549 (68.39.115.64) at 4/15/2006 6:07:46 PM |
| Free is free for a reason. while it may be free now or even if it is free forever Google will increasingly need to pay for these services offered. how do they do it noe Ads. Ads and more ads. I don't know about anyone else but I like viewing MY emails and Personal calendars and contacts without being blinded by Ads hovers flashes that I can't control and no matter how how free things are I don't think I am the only one. But who knows the way Google is streaching itself thin none of these web services will ever make it out of their eternal beta stage. |
| #3 By 46122 (151.202.60.187) at 4/15/2006 7:45:42 PM |
| I don't see what all the excitment about this product is. It is not a great product, have used it and am verry disapointed. |
| #4 By 3653 (68.52.143.149) at 4/15/2006 8:45:00 PM |
| google, rather than simply add a subpar entree into the field... how about doing something a bit different. At a minimum, you need to allow me to type in my MS Passport, and YOU go and import all my calendar entries. But even then, I'll be left with an uninspiring PoS. No thanks. I'll check back later. |
| #5 By 28801 (68.45.209.133) at 4/15/2006 9:38:15 PM |
| As if corporations would ever use a web base calendar. They would not expose company info on non-corporate servers. Let's face it that's where MS makes its money. Sure google may chip away a a few home outlook users but Microsoft's bread and butter is selling Office to big business and their OS to everyone. |
| #6 By 12071 (203.158.34.64) at 4/15/2006 11:34:23 PM |
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#1 Don't be stupid! All you need for a killer app is a rehashed idea with AJAX dust on it! The more AJAX dust you sprinkle the better it'll be and the sooner that people will drop their current applications in favour of your app! Just you wait until the Web 3.0 dust starts getting thrown around - it'll leave the Web 2.0 stuff for dead!
#2 I use Gmail quite regularly and I've yet to see any ad flashes or anything else you describe. I'm against ads in general (and yes I'm well aware of all the arguments for/against them) but given that they're not obtrusive I don't mind in the least. And if they work for their other customers (which I'm guessing they must!) - good for them! As for your point about beta software - there was a good atricle I read recently about how more and more companies are keeping products in Beta for an extended period. One of the reasons for doing this, as was mentioned in the article, is some for of legal protection. I'm not a lawyer but I guess there's some protection when you're product is just a "Beta". Google keep their applications in Beta for what seems like an eternity at times. Microsoft do similar things including buying Giant Anti-Spyware (a non-beta app) slapping on their logo and a Beta tag (why would a production app suddenly be moved into Beta status... perhaps there is something to the legal protection). In any case it's an interesting time as Beta doesn't necessarily mean what it used ot mean anymore! #5 Do you travel as part of your work? I think you'll find that the number #1 complaint from workers is that they want to be able to access their Calendars wherever they are. Initially the solution was :- print it out on paper and take it with you (obviously that was as good as a solution as it sounds!). Then it moved to companies allowing VPN access (with potential security risks) and Citrix type of access (with potential security risks) to the point where now most companies (that I deal with at least) give each of their workers a Blackberry. And that solution works very well for work. But not everyone has/wants a Blackberry device and so a single calendar would be very useful for them. If it can automatically synchronise (bi-directional) with all your external calendars and the interface is done right then it will be a tremendously popular tool! The media has this tendancy of jumping from step 1) company A produces product to step 10) company A beats Microsoft without actually looking at what's involved in steps 2 -> 9. However, I do think in many ways they are right - web delivered applications are the future (they just have a long way to go but even now we're starting to see some things that we previously didn't think the web would be good for - those things just happen to be mostly presented as gimmicks!) and that does pose an eventual problem for Microsoft as it will impact their Windows cash-cow. And Microsoft realise this, unlike many years ago when they dismissed the Internet as a fad, and you can see this with their latest let's make everything "Live". So steps 2 -> 9 will still be required for company A. |
| #7 By 23603 (70.82.83.103) at 4/16/2006 1:35:42 PM |
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#6)
No need for VPN, no need for BB, ....ever heard of OWA (Outlook Web Access) ? By the way, Windows Mobile with Exchange SP2 offers automatically synchronise (bi-directional) |
| #8 By 12071 (203.158.34.64) at 4/16/2006 8:48:05 PM |
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#7 "OWA (Outlook Web Access)"
Yes I have - and there's no way I would choose to use it again, I prefer my Blackberry. Last night I came across www.kiko.com which does have synchronisation and from the little demo is nicer/easier to use than Google's Calendar. "Windows Mobile with Exchange SP2 offers automatically synchronise (bi-directional)" That's great - but in that case it's just a replacement for a Blackberry (although I am curious how they implemented the security between the Exchange server in a corporate WAN and you roaming around). |
| #9 By 17996 (67.182.137.207) at 4/16/2006 9:21:48 PM |
| #5/7 - When traveling, if you don't want to use VPN or OWA, you can use something called Outlook over RPC, which lets you use the full Outlook client against your company's Exchange server when not on their network. |
| #10 By 1401 (69.27.196.126) at 4/16/2006 11:10:09 PM |
| #7 - I know a guy named Brian - he's bi-directional... |
| #11 By 28801 (65.90.202.11) at 4/17/2006 7:32:29 AM |
| #6 There is nothing wrong with Outlook web access or the Lotus Notes equivalent. Neither involves VPN and both are more than adequate for web mail. How about asking all of these so-called “companies” you deal with if they would host their corporate mail on non-corporate servers. I'm sure you'll get a couple of positives from Joe's Pools and Bobs Towing. |
| #12 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 4/17/2006 10:07:46 AM |
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#7, I like my BlackBerry a lot, but if I had OWA available (i.e., a computer with internet access handy), I'd certainly use that instead. I'm pretty fast on the BlackBerry keyboard, but nowhere near as fast as I can type on a regular keyboard.
One thing to consider about these hosted services--when they decide to make an upgrade to the service, you get it too--like it or not. If you have any application that ties into the hosted app (and integration itself with locally-hosted apps can be quite a mess!), you're at their mercy if the upgrade breaks that functionality. Or, if they remove a feature that you use, or add a feature that you don't want, or change the implementation of certain features in a way that may be advantageous for most but not for you, you're stuck with it. This happens with locally-hosted apps as well, but at least you set your own timetable of when--or if--you switch. And if you do decide to switch, you are only limited by your own resources to research the implications and locate the "gotchas." You can (and should) even set up a dev environment, run pilots, etc. This can get quite tricky in a hosted-app environment. As the CEO of Lawson software recently said, "There’s so much talk about online software, and I scratch my head and wonder where it’s coming from. I rarely get questions by customers about it." Online apps may get some traction in the consumer market, but I don't think it's going to make a big splash among businesses, at least for several years. |
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