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  Microsoft sets sights on AOL subscribers
Time: 10:43 EST/15:43 GMT | News Source: Associated Press | Posted By: Byron Hinson

Even Microsoft Corp., at times, can play the role of David to someone else's Goliath. With 9 million subscribers to its MSN Internet service, Microsoft places a distant second to America Online and its 35 million subscribers worldwide. It is battling a company that, for many, is almost synonymous with the Internet, from its ubiquitous distribution of free trial compact discs to popularizing the phrase "You've got mail." Still, Microsoft's got a pretty big slingshot. And the Redmond software giant is loading it with its biggest stone yet -- MSN 8. The new redesign of its browsing and Internet access service will launch nine days after America Online rolls out AOL 8.0 on Tuesday, as the two industry powerhouses ratchet up a big-bucks battle to attract new customers -- or steal them away from competitors.

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#1 By 2138 (62.201.75.1) at 10/13/2002 11:04:04 AM
what kind of competition is this? MSN8 is only available to the U.S., P.R. I want to suscribe to MSN8, but since I live in Budapest, Hungary I cannot. I am also a U.S. Citizen. I know that you can use this with your existing ISP, but if M$ want to take the limelite away form AOL; then they should lauch this service Worldwide, and I do not mean the U.S., France, Germany and U.K.

belto...

#2 By 3 (62.253.128.4) at 10/13/2002 11:05:10 AM
#1 same as what I am thinking, they don't have much chance overtaking AOL with MSN 8 when the rest of the world has to wait months again for the new release.

#3 By 1401 (24.74.50.234) at 10/13/2002 11:06:21 AM
I'd say this is bad news for AOL. Look to see a sharp subscriber decline in the US. I'm gonna try and get my parents to switch from AOL to MSN, but I don't know how successful I will be.

#4 By 10802 (24.201.185.24) at 10/13/2002 11:10:40 AM
Does anyone know if MSN is available in Canada?

#5 By 1401 (24.74.50.234) at 10/13/2002 12:07:10 PM
Yes - I believe it is available in Canada

#6 By 2138 (62.201.91.217) at 10/13/2002 1:28:28 PM
#4,

I do not believe it is available in Canada, unless you are already subscribed to MSN then you will autimatically be sent the new MSN8 CD to upgrade. But I am not sure of this though.

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#7 By 2138 (62.201.91.217) at 10/13/2002 1:33:39 PM
Oh yes #2,

I was online with MSN customer support and the associate told that they will roll out with; darn I deleted the response from this conversation!. but as I was saying they will be rolling out this feature to the rest of the world by end of 2003! You know M$ though:))

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#8 By 1896 (66.20.202.129) at 10/13/2002 3:34:09 PM
Is this new release going to switch your MSN email account from POP3 to HTTP based one? Just curious because I don't care much about the layout although it is perfect for people who like the AOL style

#9 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 10/13/2002 9:33:33 PM
Trade Wind - "(tho reportedly only 17.7million pay $24/mo) "

Yep, I can get AOL for $5/month through work. Still not worth it. :)

#10 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/13/2002 10:09:07 PM
I'll third that, soda. I couldn't stand going back to dialup. I'd rather have no Internet than have AOL Internet.

#11 By 3653 (65.190.70.73) at 10/13/2002 10:23:27 PM
Trade Wind, looking at the following numbers, it isn't OBVIOUS, but the gap between #1 and #2 is narrowing too. Look at the number of MSN Subscribers as a percentage of AOL Subscribers...

DATE, MSN Subscribers, AOL Subscribers, MSN as % of AOL Subscribers

04/01/00, 2.5M, 22.2M, 10.1%
07/17/00, 3.0M, 23.2M, 11.5%
09/30/00, 3.5M, 24.0M, 12.7%
10/25/00, 3.5M, 25.0M, 12.3%
12/31/00, 4.0M, 26.0M, 13.3%
03/31/01, 5.0M, 28.0M, 15.2%
06/30/01, 6.5M, 30.1M, 17.8%
10/15/01, 7.0M, 31.0M, 18.4%
01/15/02, 7.7M, 33.2M, 18.8%
09/18/02, 8.7M, 35.0M, 19.9%
10/10/02, 9.0M, 35.0M, 20.5%

And don't forget that MSN has a greater percentage of broadband users than AOL (not as high as EarthLink though).

This post was edited by mooresa56 on Sunday, October 13, 2002 at 22:25.

#12 By 1896 (66.20.202.129) at 10/13/2002 11:50:15 PM
I guess that in 2/3 years we will have people with really basic email needs using MSN or Aol and anyway HTTP accounts. All the other more evoluted users will run something like exchange; maybe a lighter and cheaper version that the actual one.

#13 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/14/2002 3:08:18 AM
Why would common users need their own personal POP3/SMTP server? What does "evoluted" mean? I'm quite happy with Outlook as a POP3 client. I don't see any reason to run my own mail server. That's kind of funny because I have Exchange.

#14 By 1896 (66.20.202.129) at 10/14/2002 12:18:30 PM
My post was a follow up to #10 about the fact that POP3 services are disappearing. Therefore basic users, meaning people who use a computer as an appliance, will use HTTP based services, other with needs more flexibility like exporting email etc. will look for something else. I am very happy too with OK as POP3 client; I actually use it for my HTTP services too but again the point was about the disappeareance of POP3 services. Btw how many people were saying " who need a LAN other than business companies" few years ago?

#15 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/14/2002 1:09:13 PM
I think there is a difference between a LAN and running a home email server. I also think that just because AOL and MSN have HTTP based email, doesn't mean the rest of the industry will too. I've seen the hardship my friends have setting up home networks. I couldn't imagine what pain they would have trying to setup an external email server.

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