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Cisco Calls In Reinforcements Against Microsoft | |
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| Time: 01:02 EST/06:02 GMT | News Source: *Linked Within Post* | Posted By: Kenneth van Surksum | ||
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Cisco Systems is showing no mercy in the unified communications market. CEO John Chambers wants to bury Microsoft and Nortel. Now, he’s calling on a massive software partner to help knock out the competition. Indeed, Cisco is partnering with SAP to develop network-aware SOA business applications. That’s jargon for “we’re ganging up against Microsoft and Nortel,” according to The VAR Guy. Sure, Microsoft and Nortel are partnering to develop unified network applications. It’s a pretty compelling relationship. Microsoft picks Nortel’s brain about the networking market, Nortel potentially gains access to Microsoft’s channel partners and the two companies develop unified applications for Windows. | ||
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| #26 By 32132 (64.180.219.241) at 4/24/2007 11:00:52 PM |
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http://www.jtc1sc34.org/repository/0809.pdf
An official document from the ECMA TC45. "Foremost, the interoperability of OpenXML has been accomplished through extensive contributions, modification, and review of the Specification by members of the Ecma TC45 committee (1) with diverse backgrounds and corporate interests. Representation included: • Vendors (Apple, Intel, Microsoft, NextPage, Novell, and Toshiba) with multiple operating systems (Linux, MacOS, and Windows) and multiple intended uses of OpenXML • Corporations (BP, Barclays Capital, Essilor, Statoil) with heavy investments in existing content, including mission-critical transaction systems • The British Library and the United States Library of Congress, both of whom have direct interest in preservation" |
| #27 By 3653 (68.52.143.149) at 4/25/2007 1:01:20 AM |
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#2 bluvg - You are probably correct. I was speaking from dark dark personal experiences... which have been limited to a single brand.
#4 notketchum ... i didnt say i paid them $256. Obviously, we manage to set our own clocks. I was trying (obviously not hard enough to reach you) to ILLUSTRATE my previous sentence. Let me say it clearer (feel free to read slower, if that helps too)... Nortel will charge exorbitant fees for even the simplest of work. Clearer now? latch&aRedAss - lol |
| #28 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 4/25/2007 8:01:44 AM |
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#27: I'm still waiting for you to refute the major points in the article. That involves more than repeatedly saying "It's all LIES!".
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| #29 By 23275 (24.179.4.158) at 4/25/2007 8:14:32 AM |
| #28, Now that I will agree with - they, like Cisco, will charge a mint for any support - made worse [this is where I think Mooresa56 becomes angry] depending upon how equipment was purchased - e.g., under many circumstances, one is restricted in the support they may apply and people may be forced to use specific support channels - where the high fees mentioned apply. (which is why we began to write our own configs years ago - at that time, we just could not afford the support costs - some of which were "sobbering"). |
| #30 By 32132 (64.180.219.241) at 4/25/2007 9:16:03 AM |
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#29 What major points?
Microsoft sends people to meetings? IBM employees don't like Microsoft? |
| #31 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 4/25/2007 9:51:59 AM |
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#31: The Ostrich defense at its finest. I'm surprised you don't just put your fingers in your ears and sing "LaLaLa I can't hear you!" Of course, I should have known better than to waste time trying to debate with a zealot. I won't make that mistake again.
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| #32 By 54556 (68.35.103.153) at 4/25/2007 10:04:06 AM |
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#28
Nice try to wiggle out of it, but it won't work. I didn't mention your alleged $256 clock reset charge, you are the only one that mentioned that. My response was to your statement "that raping outfit has bled their customers (myself included) ", from which I can only conclude that you have inappropriately subcontracted a maintenance task. If you would restrict your contracted engagements with that type of vendor to approprite activities, you would not have a problem paying them their fee. Also, Nortel certifies qualified companies to perform support on their behalf, giving you two options: 1) conduct a RFP for maintenance to bring in more competative prices, and 2) get yourself certified so you don't have to subcontract any aspect of maintenance. |
| #33 By 32132 (142.32.208.234) at 4/25/2007 11:28:23 AM |
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#32 Which major points?
Summarize a couple for me. Prove to me you've actually read the article. Since I've already demolished one of the major claims, I don't plan on wasting my time demolishing all the others until you actually say something. So ... summarize the top 5 points made by the IBM shill whose career depends on ODF. |
| #34 By 3653 (68.52.143.149) at 4/26/2007 12:58:53 AM |
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notketchum,
"My response was to your statement "that raping outfit has bled their customers (myself included) " Then perhaps you should check your original post. Because here's the portion of my original post that you ACTUALLY quoted... "I hate nortel. that raping outfit has bled their customers (myself included) dry for the better part of a decade. Wanna reset the clock on your phone? That'll be $256." Now who's wiggling? This post was edited by mooresa56 on Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 00:59. |
| #35 By 3653 (68.52.143.149) at 4/26/2007 8:53:29 PM |
| wiggle wiggle |
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