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Time: 00:15 EST/05:15 GMT | News Source: Economist | Posted By: Robert Stein

HE DOES not rock on his chair when thinking (and sometimes saying) that a reporter's question is the height of stupidity, as Bill Gates, Microsoft's founder does. Nor does he jump about a stage, screaming “I love this company”, like Steve Ballmer, Microsoft's chief executive. Craig Mundie, the software giant's chief technical officer, is not a typical Microsoftie. He has even been known to say such reasonable things as: “We have no right to autonomous execution. We have to be a responsible leader.”

It all sounds a bit like Colin Powell on one of his rare trips to Old Europe. This is no accident. Although there may be only superficial similarities between Mr Gates and George Bush (relative lack of sophistication, accident-prone speeches), and Mr Ballmer seems more a fusion of Dick Cheney (power behind throne) and Donald Rumsfeld (tells it like it is), Mr Mundie is unambiguously the secretary of state of the United States of Windows. As such, he is yet another sign, alongside the restructuring announced this week to improve financial control and the decision to forgo share options, that the global software bully has, to quote Mr Mundie, “recently exited adolescence”.

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#26 By 8062 (68.107.23.145) at 7/25/2003 10:03:04 PM
All right parker...open your eyes, focus and pay attention if possible (you too daz) . That Enron could even exist (it’s still around) is a tribute to the economic boom we enjoyed under our great President, William Jefferson Clinton.
That Enron failed is a direct result of bad, crooked management...period. Nothing to do with who was President.

Greed and fear are the two greatest human motivators (fear based politics is the hallmark of right-wingers btw) and greed motivated many neophyte investors to invest in .com companies which had no business plan and absolutely no logical way of ever making money. But a crowd attracts people. Buy low sell high is simple but factor in greed and fear and it becomes very complicated. Some of you guys probably worked for some of some these .coms. That they could even come into existence is again, a great tribute to the economy boom enjoyed under our great President, William Jefferson Clinton.

Most of all Clinton gave us confidence and pride to be an American. We were respected and off-times envied all over the world.

Now who do you think supplied the very weapons and training that are being used against us in the Middle East? Carter...Clinton...wrong! Try Regan and Bush1.
Finally I take it you guys served in the military right. You bore arms for
America right, being the great patriots you seem to be? Or maybe you gave up your sons and your daughters to serve right. You talk the talk but have you walked the walk? Or do you simply watch that right wing haven of disinformation and fear, Fox TV (fair and balanced you know!) and dream the dream.
Well...?

#27 By 13030 (12.238.187.82) at 7/25/2003 10:56:33 PM
#23 By BTD: ...your comments demonstrate a lack of how the Texas political system works. It’s different from most states because in Texas the governor is really nothing more than a figurehead.

Ok. I never made a comment about how the political system in Texas works. I merely replied back to another comment about having a tent set up in the middle of state.

The Texas Constitution has its roots in the reaction against the control exerted by the North after the Civil War. Nearly every position is elected. The state has a strong governship and lieutenant governship, the people did not entrust power to any single person. In fact, the lieutenant governor is considered almost on par with the governor in power since he presides over the State Senate and can greatly influence the introduction and debate of legislation. If you consider the fact that many states grant the governor the ability to appoint many of the state-wide positions and judiciary, then the Texas governship is weaker in that respect. But a "figurehead"? I suppose you believe the position was tainted, or somehow belittled, because Bush was governor...

Regardless, none of this changes the fact that Texas is an economic power with a balanced budget.

#31 By BTD: BTW my degree is in Political Science so spare me the crap about not knowing anything about politics ok!
#33 By BTD: But I’m tired of this stupid, childish drivel and have more important things to do, like watching paint dry.

Obviously, your political science degree is only slightly more effective than your debate skills.


This post was edited by ch on Friday, July 25, 2003 at 22:57.

#28 By 8062 (68.107.23.145) at 7/26/2003 1:16:55 AM
Excuse me Parker, but I don't think I made any specific reference to Iraq did I?
Simplistic in my thinking...well it takes an idiot to complicate a simple matter and a genius to simplify it. And if you really understood Maslow's postulates you'd realize that they are all nothing more than subsets of greed and fear. You need not be a mental giant to realize that fact. Better yet consult the marketing boys at the agency. They could tell you a lot about human motivation.
So without any quibbling, I disagree with your interpretation of Maslow. Your thinking lacks creativity and understanding.
You're out of your league bubba and have become very boring.

I’m ending of this diatribe, at least for me.



#29 By 135 (208.186.90.91) at 7/26/2003 1:10:20 PM
BTD - "You guys aren't a part of any solution but are really part of the problem of divisive politics that threaten to ruin this great nation. "

Agreed. If there is anything we have learned from discussing politics in these forums it is that.

#30 By 135 (208.186.90.91) at 7/26/2003 1:21:28 PM
parker - "Mobile Weapons labs were found in Iraq"

You linked to very old information that was mostly supposition. The "weapons labs" are now believed to be weather balloon stations sold to Iraq by the British in 1987.

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/Print/0,3858,4686547,00.html

Shoving your head in the sand and yelling "Nyah nyah nyah! I can't hear you" is no way to have intelligent discourse.

CooCooCaChoo - "Btw, anyone who thinks that GWB will be voted out, highly unlikely because unlike the rest of the world, the average yank is unwilling to be critical of their government, its policies or "commander and chief. "

I would have to disagree. It depends on who is running. If we can convince General Clark to run, and he can get the nomination.(both strong possibilities) I don't see Bush standing much of a chance. He's lost virtually all credibility when it comes to both domestic and foreign policy, and his encouragement of divisive politics is really hurting his image in the eyes of moderates.



#31 By 135 (208.186.90.91) at 7/26/2003 6:02:08 PM
parker - "You mean Wesley Clark. The guy who was ordered by Clinton to bomb the crap out of Yugoslavia without UN authority? "

And so it begins...

The right-wing, confronted by a strong candidate resorts to personal attacks.

As Max Clelland found in Georgia, the Republicans are not at all interested in a persons love of country, or devotion to service. Clelland lost three limbs while serving his country on the battlefields of Vietnam, but that didn't stop the Republicans from slandering him as un-patriotic.

Persons in the military who think President Bush cares at all about them should be paying attention.

BTW, I forgot to address this point... "Isn't unilateral military action without UN authority a bad thing? "

The operations in Kosovo acted under both UN and NATO resolutions. The UN was involved in peace keeping, and the NATO military forces were involved in insuring compliance. This claim of yours has no credence.

It is becoming abundatly clear that when faced with intelligent opposition, you fail to be able to support your policy viewpoints from anything other than a hysterical position. That follows along with my claim that your policy viewpoints are not very well thought out.

This post was edited by sodablue on Saturday, July 26, 2003 at 18:28.

#32 By 135 (208.186.90.91) at 7/26/2003 6:06:33 PM
parker - BTW, I am further puzzled by your claim that I am a hypocrite for I was greatly in support of the Afghanistan campaign.

As for Iraq. It was never a question of Why, the question I've always had was "Why Now?"

Your problem is not one of understanding hypocrisy, your problem is one of not listening to arguments. This problem is endemnic throughout the party, which is why it is so paramount for America's future to crush the Republicans in the 2004 elections.

You will, of course, resort to the usual right-wing tactics of name calling and proclaiming everybody as unpatriotic communists as did McCarthy in the 50's.

You will also fail to convince the public of such, instead these tactics will make you look petty and childish.

#33 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 7/27/2003 4:02:20 AM
BTD, you should know better: a great tribute to the economy boom enjoyed under our great President, William Jefferson Clinton. Wrong. Why must people blindly associate these two separate events? A more accurate way of saying that is "a great tribute to the economy boom that our President William Jefferson Clinton enjoyed." Don't confuse economic strength with who is in the White House--no matter who that is.

#34 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 7/27/2003 4:41:10 AM
CooCooCaChoo, "As for his support of $25,000 per-suicide bomber, there has been NO evidence to prove that it has increased the number of attacks...." Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? You think Saddam wanted no harm to fall on the US? By the same token, there's NO evidence that proves that Saddam would not have taken action to harm the US.

As for oil and other motives, Afghanistan? Liberia? And how quickly we forget that the US Congress voted in favor of supporting the president--not to say it was totally bipartisan, but there was support in both parties.

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