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Time:
12:21 EST/17:21 GMT | News Source:
PC World |
Posted By: Robert Stein |
Next to Windows Millennium, Vista, the Office 2007 Ribbon, and the Kin bombshell, this is the worst marketing decision Microsoft has ever made. If these other four major blunders have not already soured you on Microsoft, this new upgrade policy will surely make you sick. Maybe this is a good time to dump the software king and start looking for other options.
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#1 By
17855 (205.167.180.131)
at
7/15/2010 2:54:07 PM
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ROFLMAO...
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#2 By
7754 (173.8.117.81)
at
7/15/2010 3:25:31 PM
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She clearly has not tried the simultaneous authoring feature. Two people cannot edit the same paragraph at the same time, so her quip that co-authoring always has the problem where another person immediately changes what you just wrote is simply false. For what it's worth, making changes to what someone else wrote isn't a technical issue anyhow, and isn't exclusive to simultaneous authoring. It could also be easily mitigated by using track changes.
Office 2007 Ribbon one of the worst marketing decisions? Well... just because YOU does not like it doesn't make it a bad marketing decision. Sales speak louder than words.
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#3 By
15406 (216.191.227.68)
at
7/15/2010 3:30:37 PM
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#2: Sales speak louder than words.
Perhaps, but they aren't saying what you think they are. You can't use sales as a metric for popularity of a specific software feature in general, and especially when the software enjoys an overwhelming market dominance. Sales would be a good metric for the ribbon if they offered a version that had the ribbon disabled by default. I would guess that pretty much nobody bought Office 2007 because of the ribbon.
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#4 By
20505 (216.102.144.11)
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7/15/2010 4:35:10 PM
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Latch,
Didn't I read somewhere that OO was going to copy the "ribbon"?
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#5 By
92283 (70.67.3.196)
at
7/15/2010 9:05:38 PM
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"On May 23, 2007, the OpenOffice.org community and Redflag Chinese 2000 Software Co, Ltd. announced a joint development effort focused on integrating the new features that have been added in the RedOffice localization of OpenOffice.org, as well as quality assurance and work on the core applications. Additionally, Redflag Chinese 2000 made public its commitment to the global OO.o community stating it would "strengthen its support of the development of the world's leading free and open source productivity suite", adding around 50 engineers (who have been working on RedOffice since 2006) to the project."
And Latch was worried about ONE communist working for Microsoft for a couple of months when 50 communists have been working on OpenOffice for 3 years!
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#6 By
9589 (174.111.15.187)
at
7/16/2010 7:35:41 AM
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Five Reasons You Don't Need Microsoft Office 2010 - Got it already - better than ever . . .
Nice job, Microsoft!
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#7 By
15406 (216.191.227.68)
at
7/16/2010 8:15:28 AM
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#4: I thought I had read something similar. My guess is that they had intended to if the ribbon actually improved throughput. Perhaps now, a few years down the road, they see that the usability just isn't there and so won't exert the effort to implement it.
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#8 By
28801 (65.90.202.10)
at
7/16/2010 11:01:52 AM
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#7: The ribbon is being emulated by more and more software like Snagit and AutoCAD . A piece of BI Web software we use has emulated the ribbon. Clearly these companies studies indicate more ribbenefits than your exhaustive studies.
"Perhaps now, a few years down the road, they see that the usability just isn't there and so won't exert the effort to implement it. "
I think it's more like the loyal OO users want to stay mired in 1997.
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#9 By
15406 (216.191.227.68)
at
7/16/2010 11:34:35 AM
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#8: Clearly these companies studies indicate more ribbenefits than your exhaustive studies.
Perhaps. Could you point me towards those studies that you're so sure exist so that I can confirm it wasn't just them jumping on the bandwagon with some new shiny?
My favourite zip tool of choice, PowerArchiver, also uses a ribbon. It's no more useful than a standard button or menu, but does it ever look purdy.
I think it's more like the loyal OO users want to stay mired in 1997.
Knowing MS, there are probably patents involved that scuttled any attempt by OO.o to implement it.
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#10 By
28801 (65.90.202.10)
at
7/16/2010 7:01:08 PM
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#9: "Perhaps. Could you point me towards those studies that you're so sure exist so that I can confirm it wasn't just them jumping on the bandwagon with some new shiny?"
These companies have skin in the game. They are trying to make money. I seriously doubt they would pay a team of programmers to make such a change and risk alienating their users without doing some analysis. And I certainly think it goes beyond mere aesthetic analysis.
BTW, where is your exhaustive study again?
Here's is part 1 of Microsoft's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl9kD693ie4
I'll let you find parts 2 - 10
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#11 By
3653 (65.80.181.153)
at
7/19/2010 3:43:04 AM
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"You can't use sales as a metric for popularity"
Just admit when msft does something awesome. I mean, even the underground loves the ribbon...
http://www.sublight.si/GetSublight.aspx
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#12 By
2960 (72.205.26.164)
at
7/19/2010 10:58:19 AM
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I gotta agree with Latch on this one.
Personally, I think the ribbon has destroyed productivity in Office, and many of my advanced users feel the same way.
At least with Office 10, you can change the ribbons. Once should not have to devote hours to modifying a product before they use it though.
It should have been an optional interface...
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#13 By
3653 (65.80.181.153)
at
7/19/2010 3:10:39 PM
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Larry, those same users that don't work more efficiently with the Ribbon... are the same sort that would change their keyboard to abcd instead of qwerty, if given the chance. Some folks would rather die than put in the 2 days it takes to make the transition. I hated the Ribbon too... for about a week. Then I became proficient with it.
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