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Dell Joins Microsoft, Novell in Linux Pact | |
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| Time: 10:11 EST/15:11 GMT | News Source: eWeek | Posted By: Robert Stein | ||
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NEW YORK—Microsoft Corp. said on May 7 Dell Inc. had joined a business collaboration it had with Novell Inc. to allow open-source Linux software to work with Windows. The move makes Dell the first major systems provider to join the Microsoft-Novell collaboration, which consists of a broad set of business and technological agreements to make their products work together better to serve corporate customers using both Linux and Windows computer servers. | ||
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| #1 By 32132 (64.180.219.241) at 5/7/2007 10:34:04 AM |
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Boycott Dell!!!
Excommunicate them for making a deal with the devil and its disciples. |
| #2 By 6859 (206.156.242.36) at 5/7/2007 10:55:14 AM |
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Also, expect no ATI cards in any of those Ubuntu systems. ATI + 3D + X = failure. Across three different Ubuntu versions, with 4 different versions of ATI's fglrx driver, I was unable to get 3D running without a crash; nor was I able to convince Ubuntu that my monitor can do 1152x864@75Hz...it just refused to believe it (despite me providing specific modeline stats for it.)
If you read the forums, everyone who has working 3D is using an nVidia card, all the ATI users are pitching a fit...and rightly so. Strangely, I do not suffer this issue under Windows XP on the same hardware (the only difference is the HDD, and I used two different drives in my test), so I know it's not the system. It's the OS, a component of the OS, a driver, or a general incompatibility. ATI will not help other than to say "did you try the newest driver?" as their Linux support is non-existant. My advice: stick with XP, Vista is broken, XP is the high-mark for Windows. |
| #3 By 32132 (142.32.208.234) at 5/7/2007 11:09:52 AM |
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#2 I like Vista better. I couldn't go back to XP.
#1 http://www.ideastorm.com/article/show/67008/Dont_imply_Microsoft_IP_in_Linux "The venom out there by Linux Admins for Novell/Microsoft is pretty bad. I don't understand why Dell would set their new Linux offerings up to fail, by enticing a mass boycott. Especially when there are so many better options out there. I know I was planning to buy a preloaded desktop to show my support even though gentoo is my preferred flavor. I probably still will just because I want to see the preloaded Linux succeed. However you can rest assured that my companies server racks will never house a Dell server as long as they have SuSE preloaded." See ... every Linux fanatic thinks the other kind of Linux than the one they use is the wrong kind of Linux. Except for SUSE which has a special reserved place in hell. Never hire Linux fanatics. They make decisions based on emotional hateful ideology. This post was edited by NotParker on Monday, May 07, 2007 at 11:11. |
| #4 By 37047 (216.191.227.68) at 5/7/2007 11:26:41 AM |
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Those who think the XP vs. Vista debates get nasty have never spent any time in a Linux forum. Those folks get nasty when it comes to which distro is better than the others, who's text editor is best, etc. They get really fanatical! They make the comments and nastiness here look like amateur hour.
My advice for those considering using Linux either on the desktop or the server side: Look at what is available, say the top 5 or 6 distros, and use the one that seems to best fit your needs. Only you can make that determination. Choosing a Linux distro is a lot like choosing a new car. No one brand or model is best for everyone. Read reviews of the products you are considering, but keep in mind that people are more likely to make public comments when they are upset with a company or product than when they are happy with a company or product. About the only exceptions to that are company shills, and people who are paid to write reviews of products, such as those who work for various publications. |
| #5 By 23275 (24.179.4.158) at 5/7/2007 5:30:53 PM |
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#4, That has to be one of the best and most thoughtful posts I have read in any public forum.
Very sound advice! Thanks! I would only add the the hardware and how it is to be used, second only to the dev team moving apps to such a server, is another huge consideration. Some distros we support run great on specific hardware and others just stink on the same gear. I know it sounds redundant on one hand, but it is not - yes, needs/requirements are a driver above all, but what hardware one has, or as is most often the case, what hardware one "may" buy [many companies have specific vendors/contracts], is so very important. This post was edited by lketchum on Monday, May 07, 2007 at 17:34. |
| #6 By 37047 (216.191.227.68) at 5/8/2007 8:18:26 AM |
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#5: Thanks!
Hardware configurations can play a big part in the performance and feel of a system. We have a server system here by HP that was so slow, it was pathetic. It has an internal RAID controller and 6 fast SCSI disks, in a RAID 5 configuration. This box is running Windows 2003 R2, and has a dual core Xeon. Not slow hardware, all things considered. Then, we hooked an external RAID box onto the system, with a new RAID controller, and the system just flies. It is now considered to be our fastest server box. So, just a little thing like a RAID controller took this system from being a slow pig to a lightning fast server. It is scary how such a small thing as a RAID controller or a badly written driver can completely ruin a user experience. |
| #7 By 32132 (142.32.208.234) at 5/8/2007 12:28:12 PM |
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http://www.forbes.com/technology/2007/05/07/dell-linux-ubuntu-tech-cz_dl_0507dell.html
"Dell became a hero to Linux fans worldwide when it announced last week that it would begin selling PCs loaded with the Linux operating system instead of Microsoft's Windows. But a week later Dell (nasdaq: DELL - news - people ) may have blown that good will away. Monday the Round Rock, Texas, computer maker announced another Linux deal--but this one is going to anger Linux supporters. That's because many of the people who embrace Linux--the open source operating system that is maintained and supported by a community of volunteers--are very particular about the kind of Linux they want to hug. And Dell's decision to work with Microsoft (nasdaq: MSFT - news - people ) and Novell (nasdaq: NOVL - news - people ) to promote Novell’s version of Linux is not going to go over well. Microsoft and Novell last year started working together to make their software programs interact more smoothly. Microsoft even agreed to help sell Novell’s version of Linux. The idea was to help customers who want to use both Windows and Linux. And importantly, Microsoft and Novell also agreed not to sue each other over intellectual property. Linux fans went nuts. Why? Because they hate Microsoft." |
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