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TCPA / Palladium Frequently Asked Questions | |
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| Time: 00:00 EST/05:00 GMT | News Source: E-Mail | Posted By: Robert Stein | ||
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Thanks Jose! "TCPA stands for the Trusted Computing Platform Alliance (TCPA), an initiative led by Intel. Their stated goal is `a new computing platform for the next century that will provide for improved trust in the PC platform.' Palladium appears to be a Microsoft version which will be rolled out in future versions of Windows, will build on TCPA hardware, and will add some extra features. The Palladium announcement appears to have been provoked by a paper I presented on the security issues relating to open source and free software at a conference on Open Source Software Economics in Toulouse on the 20th June. This paper criticised TCPA as anticompetitive. This has been amply confirmed by new revelations over the past few days." | ||
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| #1 By 2459 (24.206.97.178) at 6/28/2002 2:22:16 AM |
| This is largely one-sided, highly opinionated speculation moreso than a FAQ. |
| #2 By 1845 (12.254.162.132) at 6/28/2002 3:56:16 AM |
| So does any news agency have anything positive to say about Palladium? |
| #3 By 1868 (68.9.46.160) at 6/28/2002 7:55:11 AM |
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Where oh where has my little sheep gone
Oh where oh where can he be. Sodjerk hasn't posted and he's nowhere to be found Oh where oh where can he be.......... (Maybe he's gone out and gotten a lady friend[one can only hope]?) |
| #4 By 20 (24.243.51.87) at 6/28/2002 12:33:42 PM |
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"Liberal Pinko University Professor Says Corporate America are evil pigdogs"
*yawn* Nothing to see here, move along. -d |
| #5 By 3339 (65.198.47.10) at 6/28/2002 12:52:49 PM |
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Yeah, this guy's just an idiot, right? He's not a leading security expert, a professor at cambridge, a well-published scientist...
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/rja14/ Zeo, you expect me to be tapping away at six in the morning and you think I need to get a life? (We don't all live in Boston, foo.) Well, I'm hear, what do you want? Ross seems to say it very well. stubear, hypocrite? And this, "Palladium has the potential to be abused so we should kill it before it gets used." What are you reading? This is someone very informed about TCPA who is using this to base his argument. He raises some questions, answers some others. He explains that much of the tech is designed to protect computer vendors assets as much if not more than out own personal security. This is well-established stuff. And I never see any statement along the lines of: "we must kill it before it appears." In fact, he says its already in use... |
| #6 By 2960 (68.100.19.3) at 6/28/2002 1:16:52 PM |
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Let's just ask a simple question here...
Does anyone HERE here think Palladium is a GOOD idea ? TL |
| #7 By 1868 (68.66.44.223) at 6/28/2002 1:19:30 PM |
| Good To Hear that your still with us Sodajerk |
| #8 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 6/28/2002 1:52:36 PM |
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sodajerk - I'm not going to call this guy an idiot, because as I read the article he does make several good points. He also makes several questionable points, but regardless.
I will point out that when this guy's article came out a month ago pointing out that Windows and Linux are just about as secure/insecure and that open source doesn't provide much in the way of benefits, the anti-MS zealots such as yourself were all over him calling him some pretty nasty names. So I hope you aren't being hypocritical now by backing down on your earlier name calling. TechLarry - There are aspects of it which are a very good idea. As he stated, much of this functionality is a duplication of the current smartcard/encryption functionality we have now, it's simply more advanced and integrated. If this technology will ease fears of content publishers such that they begin making rich media content available, I'm for it. I would like to see someday where I can access a wide variety of movies and music on demand and that won't happen with the current technology. |
| #9 By 2332 (165.247.2.186) at 6/28/2002 2:24:34 PM |
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#6 - Normally I would laugh... but have you been watching the news lately? It seems that those damn Liberal Pinkos are right.
As far as the FAQ... a lot of it's speculation, but it does have some good points. One thing it doesn't mention is that there WOULD be benefit for consumers. Here is how: Right now, you have an environment where software is expensive, and online content such as music isn't exactly a booming business. Why? Well, if a huge percentage of that software or content is pirated at will, your business model kinda goes down the tubes. But if software makers and content distributors could rely on a secure DRM system, then they would be more inclined to offer more stuff, and likely at a cheaper price. Without the threat of pirating, an entirely new set of business models start to open up. This allows businesses to offer products and services that they simply couldn't before. And that benefits consumers. Speculation? Yup... but no more speculative than the opposing argument. |
| #10 By 2332 (165.247.2.186) at 6/28/2002 2:25:18 PM |
| Damnit... just read Soda's comments... I hate when somebody beats me to the punch. :-p |
| #11 By 3339 (65.198.47.10) at 6/28/2002 2:47:35 PM |
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Why do you keep asserting this, soda? "I will point out that when this guy's article came out a month ago pointing out that Windows and Linux are just about as secure/insecure and that open source doesn't provide much in the way of benefits, the anti-MS zealots such as yourself were all over him calling him some pretty nasty names. So I hope you aren't being hypocritical now by backing down on your earlier name calling." In regard to the security of these systems, I have only criticized your assinine benchmarks, and the fact that you always say, "jerk said this and this..." I certainly didn't call anyone names for saying that the two platforms were just as secure.
Just curious--were you one of the, what, I think it was less than 35% that said they wanted this? Really... Do you want this? |
| #12 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 6/28/2002 3:09:33 PM |
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sodajerk - Are you now claiming you aren't an anti-MS zealot?
http://www.sodablue.org/images/sodajerk.bmp I don't know if I want it yet or not. I see certain advantages, but I would need to see more details in how it's implemented to know if it's all good or not. |
| #13 By 3339 (65.198.47.10) at 6/28/2002 3:51:24 PM |
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soda, this is my whole point--why do you find it appropriate to attribute all anti-MS comments possible in the entire world to me.. Just because I don't like MS doesn't mean I called someone names when they used a theoretical argument to suggest any platform is just as secure. Nor does opposing Palladium have anything to do with hypocrisy if you say MS's security is crap!! So you just like to make big idiotic statements all over the place. Especially your stupid little image--do you really think I love everything else, do you really think I would never choose an MS product over an other? Well, make up whatever prejudgments you want, you sound like an idiot.
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| #14 By 1845 (12.254.162.132) at 6/28/2002 4:43:24 PM |
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From what I've read about it and clippings of quotes from Microsoft execs, I think Palladium is a very good idea. I think that whether it is implemented in the near future or in the somewhat more distant future it is going to happen. I think the "sky is falling" argument is getting old.
Certain comments like "remote control rights changes" from the content creators is speculation is it not. That is what I call FUD. On the other hand it wouldn't be that different from the phone company being able to shut me out of their network remotely. If we purchase content as a service (cable TV for instance) it is understood that certain controls come with that service. I see a lot of people who are seemingly afraid of change before they actually examine the whole picture in proper context and see what change might mean (for both positive and negative). Anyway, just a thought. Oh, Zeo1, why don't you stick to the topic at hand rather than attacking other board members. Talking civilly to each other would be a good start on the road to intelligent conversation. |
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