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| Time: 04:28 EST/09:28 GMT | News Source: CNET | Posted By: Alex Harris | ||
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You'd think Bill Gates would learn. The Microsoft chairman, who's been stung by e-mail several times, got caught yet again discussing schemes against a corporate enemy in e-mail messages admitted as evidence in antitrust testimony last week. In one note to top executives, Gates said he approved of Microsoft's association with the Web Services Interoperability Group (WS-I), code-named "foo," as long as Sun Microsystems was kept on the sidelines. This comes only a month after a January 1999 e-mail surfaced in court in which Gates described a plan to use the Windows operating system to promote Microsoft's audio and video delivery software over that of rival RealNetworks. Gates isn't alone in the court of public embarrassment over e-mail better forgotten. | ||
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| #1 By 2332 (129.21.145.80) at 5/19/2002 5:47:29 AM |
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Well, the direct quote is:
"I can live with this if we have the positioning clearly in our favor. In particular, Sun not being one of the movers/announcers/founding members." - Gates So Microsoft didn't want Sun, a company that has done everything it its power to resist web services until they realized it was impossible, to have founding member status in an organization devoted to web services? Bastards! |
| #2 By 1896 (65.227.254.106) at 5/19/2002 8:11:28 AM |
| You are 100% right RMD. At the beginning Sun tried to sink the initiative, now that they have realized they couldn't they want the status of founder member! Their request is ridiculous and the title of the article is, as usual, misleading. |
| #3 By 1658 (12.251.22.39) at 5/19/2002 11:37:35 AM |
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The part that cracks me up is that these attorneys seem to think that Microsoft should or does like Sun and vice-versa. When in reality, as we all well know, Sun hates Microsoft as does Microsoft hate Sun with a passion. So what's the problem here? We don't want them to have a major roll because we can't stand them as a competitor? Ooooo, that's illegal, yup it is. NOT!
This case is amazing in that the entire system of justice seems to have forgotten that anti-trust law was written expressly with the purpose of protecting the CONSUMER, not the COMPETITOR. And don't give me this "Well if there's more competition the consumer is better off" junk. That's true of course to a certain extent, however, it doesn't change what is written in the letter of the law. Its time for the law to change you may say? Well thats for an entirely different discussion in and of itself. I'm still waiting for someone to give me a single shred of evidence that Microsoft has truly HARMED the consumer. Whip it out, I'm all ears... Although after the crap I'll probably take for that statement, I'll not return to this article. :) I'm sure there will be plenty of "They've taken away choices", "They overcharged", "They can charge whatever they want because they are a monopoly", "Windows crashes too much so they hurt me" blah blah blah. Take away Windows tomorrow... just think about it folks, take away EVERY copy of Windows tomorrow... gone, zip, bang. Imagine what would happen... yeah, the company that has helped the world's economy grow and communicate has harmed us all. You betcha. Oh well, I guess I'll get back to playing my Xbox with my brand new controller that they sent me because my other one got ran over by a bike. Those jerks actually sent me a new controller... ack! Hurting again over here... Andy This post was edited by aamendala on Sunday, May 19, 2002 at 11:41. |
| #4 By 20 (24.243.51.87) at 5/19/2002 11:25:15 PM |
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Microsoft didn't want to be part of an organization in which Sun was leading. MS doesn't want to follow Sun.
How is this illegal? How is this relevant? Oh yeah, that's right, it isn't. CNET just jumps on any chance to make MS look bad. It's kinda like Democrats and Pres. Bush. Regardless of the facts, it's the headlines that count! |
| #5 By 4209 (163.192.21.3) at 5/20/2002 9:31:14 AM |
| #7, the states can't appeal as far as I know. If they lose they lose, nothing more thay shoudl be able to do. But again I do not know the law, but I thought only the defense could appeal. The states are the one bringing on the suit, they have to go with whatever the judge says. |
| #6 By 3339 (65.198.47.10) at 5/20/2002 6:55:38 PM |
| mctwin, once again you demonstrate your astounding knowledge and expertise in the law. (SARCASM, GREAT BIG SARCASM!) Of course, the prosecution can appeal. Always could and can do so in every type of case. No wonder you make so many aggregiously bad claims about the case and legal matters. |
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