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Dump Microsoft, Use Linux to Save Money, U.K. Officials Suggest | |
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| Time: 08:24 EST/13:24 GMT | News Source: Bloomberg | Posted By: Robert Stein | ||
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U.K. government staff suggested replacing Microsoft Corp. operating systems on computers with free alternatives in response to a call for ideas for Prime Minister David Cameron’s cost-cutting drive. Cameron asked the 600,000 government workers last month to make suggestions on saving money as his administration seeks to cut Britain’s record budget deficit. Chancellor of the Exchequer George Osborne today published a sample of the 56,000 submitted ideas, which including abandoning Microsoft, switching office lights off and centralizing stationery procurement. | ||
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| #1 By 23603 (74.198.12.14) at 7/9/2010 12:07:20 PM |
| Well....good luck going Linux on the desktop.. |
| #2 By 8556 (173.27.246.50) at 7/9/2010 12:56:57 PM |
| I have an idea on how he can save money. Resign, after he has everyone turn the lights off. |
| #3 By 143 (96.28.66.92) at 7/9/2010 7:55:21 PM |
| Good luck with that plan...from the 13 |
| #4 By 9589 (67.237.65.67) at 7/11/2010 12:13:10 AM |
| Cameron - speak to the Mayor of Munich - quick . . . |
| #5 By 228224 (74.59.86.16) at 7/11/2010 6:17:34 PM |
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I guess someone in the British government doesn't know squat about IT. Take [maybe] 600,000 systems, extract needed data, wipe the machines, put on Linux, dump the data back. Of course what will users be doing? Learning how to use Linux [big money there], learning how to use OpenOffice [or whatever] instead of Office [big money there], ....
And then you got the support issue, the majority of the IT support will either be fired or retrained at one point [so unenployment benefits needed plus more training costs] plus additional support managing and updating all those systems. And of course you have a zillion distros out there. what do you choose? Ububtu? RedHat, SUSE? OpenSuse? Fedora? [the geniouses will probably choose some known distro] I'm sure I'm missing other costs but in the end - for a while - the government will be shelling out more money than before. They're better off figuring internally why they waste so much money. Usually too many levels or each department or branch has their own IT staff and not a "global" staff. |
| #6 By 16797 (99.236.143.109) at 7/12/2010 12:58:01 PM |
| Perhaps they could move some servers to Linux? I know we could where I work. |
| #7 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 7/13/2010 9:23:19 AM |
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Sounds like a great way to save taxpayer's money.
#1: Some believe that you make your own luck. #4: I doubt that the Mayor would be the best person to ask, but the project has been successful enough to be extended to 2013. They're hoping to have another 2,000 systems converted this year alone. I find it hilarious that you continually use the Munich migration derisively when the joke is really on you; they are moving forward. They're doing the same thing in Amsterdam and Vienna. Are you going to start ripping them too? #5: The journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step. You list all these obstacles as if they are too large to overcome. The migration won't be easy, but nothing worthwhile ever is. And of course you have a zillion distros out there. what do you choose? Perhaps they would choose one of the big 4 that have a lot of business deployments. You can get HP and Dell servers preloaded with RedHat, for example. I'm sure I'm missing other costs but in the end - for a while - the government will be shelling out more money than before. You're kind of missing the point a little. I don't know about you, but I'd rather spend $10 million to get away from Microsoft than to spend $2 million per year on MS forever. Smart governments will think long-term while others concentrate on the short-term, to their own detriment. |
| #8 By 92283 (70.67.3.196) at 7/13/2010 10:27:19 AM |
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"the project has been successful enough to be extended to 2013"
Translation: It will be taking 5 more years than expected and prepare for another announcement in 2013 "extending" the project to 2018. Which means 10 years of extra salary for the migration "experts" and 0 savings. "You can get HP and Dell servers preloaded with RedHat" RedHat is way more expensive than Windows Server for most applications. |
| #9 By 23603 (74.198.12.14) at 7/13/2010 11:42:37 AM |
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#7
"Smart governments will think long-term while others concentrate on the short-term, to their own detriment" Wow!! Going Linux is a long term smart decision? Show me any Linux roadmap? What's that.....? Can't find any Roadmap..... yep !!! really smart |
| #10 By 9589 (68.17.52.2) at 7/13/2010 12:14:21 PM |
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This is a country with one of the highest debt to GDP ratios on the planet. Their deficit this year is more than half their tax reciepts (in other words their broke and have to print money to make up the difference) They have an unemployment rate so high that in some parts of the country little more than half the working population has a job. It "boasts" having the third largest group of employee on the planet in their socialized medicine industry (behind the Chinese army and the Indian railway workers). Yet, you can't be seen for months for routine care and if you're old and have an acute illness you're left to die.
Yeah, dumping Microsoft is a great idea. Just like the ones above . . . Regarding shutting off the lights - I think they're already doing that - for decades. |
| #11 By 16797 (99.236.143.109) at 7/13/2010 12:20:34 PM |
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#8 "RedHat is way more expensive than Windows Server for most applications. "
Why would you need to use RH? Many providers use CentOS (=RedHat). $0. Where I work, some Win servers could be easily replaced with Linux: you don't need Windows to run Apache/TomCat/MySQL, SVN server, etc, yet that is what we do. I guess it's more like that IT stuff is not really familiar with non-Windows platforms, nor they want to have mixed environment.. |
| #12 By 16797 (99.236.143.109) at 7/13/2010 12:33:27 PM |
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#9 "Show me any Linux roadmap?"
Oh, PLEASE. Like Windows is so much better? Like 5 year gap between XP and Vista? Vista, you know, system that was rushed to market? Or are you talking about that planned "reset" that they had to do in 2004 and start over? Remember WinFS? Where did it go? Etc, etc. Care to tell us when next Windows (client) is coming out? For sure? |
| #13 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 7/14/2010 8:01:59 AM |
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#9: You're not very good at this whole 'debating' thing, are you?
#10: Wow. I'm not sure how to parse that. You turn a big rant against Germany to somehow mean that dumping Microsoft is a bad idea?? Talk about a non-sequitur. #11,12: I know we've had our disagreements in the past, but I could not have said what you said any better. |
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