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  Linus calls Linux 'bloated and huge'
Time: 08:51 EST/13:51 GMT | News Source: The Register | Posted By: Kenneth van Surksum

Linux creator Linus Torvalds says the open source kernel has become "bloated and huge," with no midriff-slimming diet plan in sight.

During a roundtable discussion at LinuxCon in Portland, Oregon this afternoon, moderator and Novell distinguished engineer James Bottomley asked Tovalds whether Linux kernel features were being released too fast, before the kernel is stabilized.

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