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Time:
17:05 EST/22:05 GMT | News Source:
Ars Technica |
Posted By: Andre Da Costa |
Bing's share of the search market grew another percentage point in July, indicating that some of those initial users may be sticking around for the long haul. Google, on the other hand, fell by nearly the same amount, and now faces the combined forces of Microsoft and Yahoo in the race for search market share.
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#1 By
230538 (74.219.160.9)
at
8/4/2009 9:37:03 AM
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Let's see.. More people are installing/upgrading to IE8. And the default search toolbar is pointed to Bing. Hmmm.. There's your 1% gain..
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#2 By
92283 (24.64.223.204)
at
8/4/2009 9:51:07 AM
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#1 Kind of like Firefox and Google ... without the 1% gain.
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#3 By
23275 (24.196.4.141)
at
8/4/2009 10:05:06 AM
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or the ubiquitous Google toolbars that pepper downloads like the mandatory Adobe FLASH update to plug holes and mitigate zero day flaws.
Also, IE 8 setup includes selecting a search provider, which provides clear access to alternatives to Bing.
No. Bing's gains are real. People like the service and the like the way returns are easier to use. With the MS/Yahoo partnership in place, Bing will gain more and Google will counter with similar formatting for returns - but they run the risk of losing differentiation and possibly eroding their base, which include those simply used to using Google as it is. What they cannot do is nothing and as MS executes on its own "cloud" strategy, Google is going to be under increasing pressure.
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#4 By
15406 (216.191.227.68)
at
8/4/2009 10:09:44 AM
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Who to believe? Last month., Bing was gaining at the expense of Yahoo with Google's share unchanged. What happened, has MS been splashing around the "marketing incentives" again? With its emphasis on commerce and shopping, Bing will have its niche. I'm almost never looking to buy something when using a search engine and will likely stay with Google for that alone. Then there's the distrust of MS's shady ethics and how I don't trust them to not manipulate search results if it somehow financially benefits them to do so.
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#5 By
23275 (24.196.4.141)
at
8/4/2009 10:51:19 AM
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#4, Yes.. yes... it cannot possibly be that Bing is any good and that people like it and find it useful... that is simply impossible, because like you, all people are much more interested in the ideological arguments and not all interested in simply using tools that are easy and clear for them...
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#6 By
15406 (216.191.227.68)
at
8/4/2009 11:57:29 AM
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#5: No, it's certainly possible that the gain was deserved and not just a statistical blip or spike due to marketing. Time will bear that out. And don't get itchy with me for pointing out that MS's reputation attaches to everything they do. If they're an unethical, anti-competitive company, and this is borne out year after year, then maybe they're fiddling with the results to favour the highest bidder? I wouldn't put it past them.
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Besides, why are you here arguing this when your pragmatic butt should be elsewhere getting things done?
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#8 By
23275 (24.196.4.141)
at
8/4/2009 12:15:16 PM
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#6, Well, my pragmatic butt is testing the new Awin and the feature designed to post simultaneously to both instances.
Practically speaking, supporting Awin and the community of people who use Microsoft's platform (part of the reason I donate so much to Awin, et al) is very pragmatic, as it is (as it began) as a means to help people get the most out of the platform and find answers and news relating to its use.
Though... as you have intended and demonstrate, such efforts are blunted and diluted by people like yourself who don't offer either related solutions or alternatives. You seem to think that empty rhetoric alone has some value - even equal to real work. It doesn't and it is as vacuous as that from many with similar thinking.
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#9 By
15406 (216.191.227.68)
at
8/4/2009 1:20:39 PM
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#8: Good to know that you consider any opinion contrary to your own to be "empty rhetoric." At least by dismissing it that way, it saves you from having to address any of the points made. Kind of like the lame "I won't dignify that with a response" line of defense which is usually employed by those who just got owned.
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#10 By
11888 (69.156.3.137)
at
8/4/2009 3:28:16 PM
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Bing is going to turn out to be like every new thing that Microsoft launches. They'll get all excited for a few months and then forget about it. I think I've already done it. I tried Bing for a while, it was okay, but I'm back to Google. It wasn't even a conscious decision.
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