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Time:
09:53 EST/14:53 GMT | News Source:
eWeek |
Posted By: Kenneth van Surksum |
Microsoft Internet Explorer isn't the best browser on the market, but it's still leading the way. What will it take to finally get Microsoft’s Internet Explorer browser to lose significant ground in the enterprise? Will Firefox, Chrome or Safari challenge IE in the enterprise?
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#1 By
17855 (205.167.180.131)
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7/8/2009 10:07:42 AM
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Yes... Group Policy, existing patch mechanisms and predictable patch schedule.
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#2 By
23275 (24.196.4.141)
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7/8/2009 10:22:05 AM
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yes, yes it is. Performs well. It is extremely secure on Vista and Windows 7. As #1, said, it can be managed centrally in nearly every context.
I don't know of any enterprise, or medium sized business using anything but IE. I know of many that have very clear acceptable usage policies they enforce.
None of IE's competitors have anything close to what IE offers in all areas.
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#3 By
7754 (206.169.247.2)
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7/8/2009 10:44:51 AM
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#1: exactly, thank you. This has been said about FF for ages now, and still relatively little has been done to make it an enterprise-worthy browser.
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#4 By
7754 (206.169.247.2)
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7/8/2009 10:45:42 AM
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Link points back to awin....
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#5 By
15406 (216.191.227.68)
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7/8/2009 11:41:55 AM
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#1: FF doesn't ship with any native enterprise management tools, but there are third-party tools such as FirefoxADM that can do a variety of things. All you have to do is look. A regular patch schedule versus JIT patches is very debatable. The regular schedule is nice for patch testing, but then you're potentially leaving a large exploitation window open. JIT patching can nip issues in the bud early at the expense of a regular schedule. I don't really know if one is more important than the other but I would tend to lean towards JIT patching. After all, security is more important than keeping to a schedule. At least MS offers OOB patches for the really, truly nasty surprises.
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#6 By
7754 (206.169.247.2)
at
7/8/2009 12:17:06 PM
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#5: I've looked through some of those 3rd party suggestions before, but I've never seen anything that was comparable to IE out-of-the-box, particularly when it comes to patching. The ability to control some settings is nice, but patching/updating is the biggie. FF's update schedule is a mixed bag as well. Given that a staggering number of businesses are still on IE6 (c'mon, folks...) and the infrequency with which some web/intranet apps are updated... it's also unlikely that many businesses will be interested in keeping up with (testing, rolling out, etc.) the relatively quick pace at which FF is updated (other than the security fixes).
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#7 By
28801 (65.90.202.10)
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7/8/2009 12:56:39 PM
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Don't forget Windows Authentication in IE. No need to mess with the network.negotiate-auth.trusted-uris FF crap.
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#8 By
45754 (83.85.190.199)
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7/8/2009 1:59:46 PM
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#4 fixed :)
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#9 By
2960 (72.196.201.130)
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7/9/2009 8:39:39 AM
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HELL NO!
At least not from a security standpoint.
Now please excuse me while I go resolve the 4 drive-by infections in my queue...
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#10 By
15406 (216.191.227.68)
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7/9/2009 8:55:14 AM
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#2: It is extremely secure on Vista and Windows 7.
How is that relevant to using IE in an enterprise environment? Nobody runs Vista except at home.
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#11 By
7754 (206.169.247.2)
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7/9/2009 10:46:58 AM
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#9, once again, make your users standard users and those issues go away. It may not be your call, but don't complain about security issues when you run as root/admin.
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#12 By
2960 (72.196.201.130)
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7/10/2009 7:51:14 AM
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I see everyone continues to make excuses for this shit-pile of a browser. So be it :(
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#13 By
28801 (65.90.202.10)
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7/10/2009 8:15:25 AM
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#12: When you visit a construction site, do you wear a hardhat?
When you use FireFox do you use noscript?
When you use linux, do you run as admin and browse Russian Porn sites?
The web is a dangerous place! You take extra protective measures when using other software, why is there a different standard for IE? Run IE in protected mode as a standard user and don't be stupid.
That being said, my company is still on XP and IE6. I have permission to run as admin and have never had any problems. What is your company doing wrong?
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#14 By
23275 (24.196.4.141)
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7/10/2009 8:40:17 AM
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@Latch, Nobody runs Vista except at home - this is simply not true. We've been deploying Vista into businesses since it became available nearly three years ago.
I know you want to insist that no one uses Vista; no one deployed it.
#13, Rxcall's advice is sound and simply must be followed if threats from the Internet are ever to be controlled. Bluvg has similarly and repeatedly called for the same things. I know that guys like oldog have long since followed that advice and are safer for it.
For Tech Larry, I am sure it has to be the case that it is not his choice and that the user machines he has to clean up so frequently, are running as root admins on XP with IE 6 and that his company has no other web access controls or policies in place. If they are running like this and their business is not testing mal-ware solutions and or help desk training, then they really need to find a new CIO... like today!
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#15 By
89249 (70.177.107.11)
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7/11/2009 12:10:33 PM
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TL... prob don't let your users run as Powerusers or Admins. Just saying, haven't had an infection of one of my users machines in YEARS. Porn Sites + Power User||Admin == Machine Cleanup
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