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Security Report Ignites Firefox vs. Internet Explorer Feud | |
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| Time: 08:17 EST/13:17 GMT | News Source: eWeek | Posted By: Andre Da Costa | ||
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A report by Secunia finds the vulnerabilities in Mozilla Firefox greatly outnumbered those in Internet Explorer, Apple Safari and other browsers in 2008. However, Mozilla was quicker to react than Microsoft when dealing with vulnerabilities disclosed publicly without prior vendor notification, Secunia says. Mozilla's Firefox Web browser has been gaining market share against Microsoft Internet Explorer for years now. However, in 2008 it surpassed IE in a far less glorious category: number of bugs. | ||
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| #1 By 2231 (72.5.151.4) at 3/6/2009 8:31:53 PM |
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"A report by Secunia finds the vulnerabilities in Mozilla Firefox greatly outnumbered those in Internet Explorer, Apple Safari and other browsers in 2008"
Shouldn't this be rephrased to "A report by Secunia finds the KNOWN vulnerabilities in Mozilla Firefox greatly outnumbered those KNOWN in Internet Explorer, Apple Safari and other browsers in 2008"? |
| #2 By 12071 (203.158.48.143) at 3/7/2009 3:17:06 AM |
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#1 Almost... the number of known and disclosed vulnerabilities...
So in actual fact this report ignites absolutely nothing at all. Mozilla have always been more open in disclosing vulnerabilities than both Microsoft and Apple - and once they are known they also fix them faster than both Microsoft and Apple. If I were a security conscious person it'd be simple to pick out of those three! |
| #3 By 39852 (66.131.221.66) at 3/7/2009 5:38:45 PM |
| Wow, I guess BS doesn't get very far anymore... what are MS going to do when people are more aware of their tactics? This type of comparison was actually considered valid in the past, but now it's just seen as baseless. |
| #4 By 92283 (70.67.3.196) at 3/7/2009 7:59:53 PM |
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We've been through this before.
Most KNOWN vulnerabilities in Mozilla were known about a long time ago. All you've got to do is look at the trail in bugzilla. They get ANNOUNCED when they are fixed. They aren't fixed faster. They are fixed and then announced. This a classic. Announced Feb 3, 2009. Some of the bugs go back to 2006. http://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2009/mfsa2009-01.html https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331088 |
| #5 By 15406 (99.240.65.32) at 3/8/2009 2:25:53 PM |
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Yes, we have been through this all before. An opaque defect tracker mixed with more critical bugs and slower fix response times means bad news for IE users.
They aren't fixed faster. They are fixed and then announced. So what you're trying to say is that Mozilla has an impressive instantaneous fix response time? Cool. |
| #6 By 9589 (98.233.14.248) at 3/8/2009 6:53:09 PM |
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The non geeks out there use a product based on its usefulness. Yes, there is the matter of security, but if those issues are being addressed and more importantly you don't get hurt in the meanwhile it is becomes a non factor. All the vendors are about even when it comes to this issue despite the constant acrimony on this point on this site and others.
Back to features: Microsoft's IE starts up slower initially and bringing up each tab in a multi tabbed browser is slower. IE in Vista simply will not work when going to some web sites and crashes while Firefox just hums along on those same web sites. From a programmer's perspective, the add-ons in Firefox are superior and Microsoft has failed to address this crucial area. From a company that builds the best programming platform on the planet and caters to this community to the inth degree, I can't figure out why they are not addressing this area. Firefox keeps incrementally improving their product; Microsoft seems to have decided that they have to put out a major release and only make improvements at that time. That doesn't seem to be working. This was written using Firefox Version 3.0.7. |
| #7 By 92283 (70.67.3.196) at 3/8/2009 9:56:27 PM |
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#5 "So what you're trying to say is that Mozilla has an impressive instantaneous fix response time?"
As long as you think 3 years is "instantaneous". |
| #8 By 92283 (70.67.3.196) at 3/8/2009 10:01:19 PM |
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Here's a case where scammers are targetting IE and Firefox.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/08/ebay_scam_wizardy/ But IE8 is not vulnerable. Firefox dev's are still debating whose fault it is: "Patches are being constructed to get rid of an existing useful feature due to the patent inability of some websites to take elementary protective measures even after 5 years of the feature existing and after being repeatedly told to NOT link to external sheets by all browser vendors," one debate participant wrote El Reg in an email. "Note that the patch won't really help eBay much unless they really do start filtering the CSS they allow, since so much can be accomplished with just CSS." |
| #9 By 2960 (72.196.201.130) at 3/9/2009 11:12:02 AM |
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It's been said before, it can be said again.
The number doesn't matter. It's HOW IT EFFECTS THE USER that counts. In thousands of virus/spyware calls over the last 11 years, not a single one was sourced through Firefox, even when it was used on the machine. Every single one of them came through IE. People can defend IE all they want. It's a damned piece of swiss cheese, and it is heavily exploited. |
| #10 By 2960 (72.196.201.130) at 3/9/2009 11:15:22 AM |
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"IE in Vista simply will not work when going to some web sites"
You ain't kidding... I've been trying for 2 years to get Vista/IE to access my Novell management sites, including iPrint, and have yet to figure out why it won't work. Firefox brings them up fine. |
| #11 By 7754 (206.169.247.2) at 3/9/2009 2:43:25 PM |
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#9:"Every single one of them came through IE."
I suspect none of those were through Protected Mode IE on Vista, unless you've effectively disabled it by making users local admins.... Why is it that our org has no problems with viruses whatsoever? The cure is out there, but some refuse to implement it. If you get sick but refuse to take medicine, well... don't complain too much. |
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