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Time:
10:24 EST/15:24 GMT | News Source:
Within Windows |
Posted By: Andre Da Costa |
With Windows 7 just half-a-dozen weeks away from being in release candidacy stages, you would think people would have a good idea of what the operating system does and doesn’t do. Yeah right. While digging through the operating system, I stumbled across a handful of features that I, and others, haven’t a frickin’ clue about. It’s mega frustrating.
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#1 By
20505 (216.102.144.11)
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3/4/2009 11:03:36 AM
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I don't know what this guy is worried about, the EU will probably make them take it out anyways.
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#2 By
23275 (24.196.4.141)
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3/4/2009 11:50:36 AM
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I heard the EU wanted the UI to be in grayscale, or green screen CLI and all US autos to be painted dark matte gray. Pres. Obama was heard to say: "Sure, no problem, so long as you say you love me three times a day..."
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#3 By
28801 (65.90.202.10)
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3/4/2009 1:42:09 PM
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Thank you Rush Ketchum.
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#4 By
15406 (216.191.227.68)
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3/4/2009 1:49:59 PM
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#2: Did they really say that? I thought they said they were tired of having their antitrust laws broken by an entity that thinks it can operate above the law and continually tries to thwart competition by using their monopoly to crush competition and stifle innovation. At least, that's what I heard.
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#5 By
21997 (70.63.37.182)
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3/4/2009 1:58:13 PM
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#4: Is that what you heard? I heard that their antitrust laws were stifling innovation from Microsoft by putting arbitrary limitations on what they were and were not allowed to include in the software they place for sale on the open market. If people thought that their offerings were of little or no use, then they can choose to go another route. Redhat, OS X, Fedora, etc...
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#6 By
15406 (216.191.227.68)
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3/4/2009 3:14:59 PM
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#5: Which antitrust laws again? Do you mean like the ones in the US that also got MS in trouble until Bush bailed them out? Seems like MS has a lot of problems with antitrust laws that other companies don't seem to have the same trouble with. But clearly all this antitrust nonsense is just because everyone is jealous of MS, obviously, and nothing to do with MS lying, cheating & stealing to maintain its position to the detriment of users & partners throughout the world.
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#7 By
21997 (70.63.37.182)
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3/4/2009 3:57:08 PM
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#6: "Seems like MS has a lot of problems with antitrust laws that other companies don't seem to have the same trouble with"
Could not agree more. This is just another example of governments placing themselves, where they don't belong, as entities that decide which products/companies should/should not succeed in the marketplace much like the bailouts in the US are doing now. The government will tax those companies who have been responsible and made intelligent choices in order to fund the bailouts to companies that acted irresponsibly or under failed business models.
"all this antitrust nonsense is just because everyone is jealous of MS, obviously, and nothing to do with MS lying, cheating & stealing to maintain its position to the detriment of users & partners throughout the world." What position is that? And when is the last time that you as a consumer were unable to place your money behind the product of your choice? Do you really have that hard of a time going to http://www.openoffice.org or http://www.mozilla.com/firefox? Just imagine how much more difficult this task would be under windows if IE were not included as a starting point. And if their practices really are "to the detriment of users & partners throughout the world.", then why do people continue to purchase their products? Should we appoint someone such as yourself, who is obviously much more intelligent than the rest of the population, to determine what products we should and should not be able to purchase?
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#8 By
20505 (216.102.144.11)
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3/4/2009 4:13:15 PM
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Latch,
Don't all Linux distros and OS X include bundled accessories? I would note that all of them have the good sense not to include Opera. And what happens when another wolf cries foul? Google calling MS a monopoly is truly rich.
You know Latch continuing to call MS a monopoly in my opinion is misleading. Just a shot here but the most important OSs in the future will likely be those that scale to cell phones. Here MS is just another schmo and not looking any better than its rivals. I believe that the US has recognized this while the EU sees MS as a cash cow to be milked.
So say Google is a monopoly because they own 95+% of the search market. What are the remedies and should there be any? Ultimately the question is, can a company that doesn't control a natural resource (oil, silver ect.) be called monopolistic. Who has the corner on the market on intellectual property?
I would also point out that you can do just about anything on a Mac that you can do on a PC. It is not only an alternative it is an excellent alternative.
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#9 By
12071 (203.210.68.145)
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3/4/2009 5:19:10 PM
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#5 I like your "open market" idea and would like to subscribe to your newsletter, please tell me more!
Open market my ass - where is this supposed open market? That's right... it doesn't exist, it never existed and is just a Utopian dream where the best product will win out based on it's merits - ha! Not a chance of that ever happening when you bring patents into the mix - temporary monopolies that well, aren't that temporary given the lifespan of patents and the ability to create new patents that slightly extend previous patents.
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#10 By
15406 (99.240.65.32)
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3/4/2009 8:31:09 PM
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#7: It's up to government to stop a dominant player from abusing its position as the dominant player because its detrimental to that market specifically and society in general, and nobody else has the power to keep that player in check.
Your examples of choice with OO.o and FF illustrate my point perfectly. FF, Opera, Safari etc cannot deal with sites that use technology specifically tied to Windows. OO.o cannot render Office files with 100% accuracy. Both of these cases are examples of how Microsoft has used its dominant position as the largest OS vendor to exclude competition by tying web services and business documents to Microsoft applications.
Lastly, your comment about why people use MS software is assuming that everyone evaluates the alternatives and makes an informed choice based on their needs. The reality is that most people use MS products because the majority of other people also use MS products. You walk into a store and practically every system has Windows, with MS software displays here, there and everywhere.
#8: You're missing the key point in that it is not a problem to be a monopoly in itself. I would agree that Google has a monopoly on search technology. The difference is that they don't abuse their position to hinder other competitors. If they did, MS, Yahoo etc would have already filed antitrust charges. Google does it based on their superior technology and marketing.
Your comment about mobile OS is telling. You're dead on about MS in that they can't leverage Windows to force their way to the top of mobile, just like they couldn't when they tried to muscle in on the digital set-top box market. They have to compete on merit and they're struggling for position like any other competitor.
"Just about" isn't good enough when you consider that many software segments either have no equivalents for non-Windows or incompatibilities in data formats. If you unlock the web and unlock data formats, other platforms like Linux and Mac become more attractive since you've removed a major barrier to their adoption.
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