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Bursting the Vista sales bubble | |
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| Time: 00:00 EST/05:00 GMT | News Source: InfoWorld | Posted By: Todd Richardson | ||
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We figured that we'd find more than a few systems within our 3,000-plus-strong membership that had been "de-Vista-fied" -- either by the manufacturer or directly by the end customer. What we didn't expect was for nearly 35 percent of all current-model PCs (that is those that normally ship with Vista installed) in the repository to be running a different OS. | ||
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| #1 By 92283 (70.66.78.103) at 8/19/2008 1:21:54 AM |
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Really?
65% of the exo (I hate Vista) network PC's are running Vista. And 35% are running XP. 0% for anyone else? What a disaster for Apple and Linux. A total disaster. |
| #2 By 18 (67.185.60.166) at 8/19/2008 1:37:02 AM |
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"...current-model PCs (that is those that normally ship with Vista installed)..."
Looks like they were looking specifically at hardware shipped with Vista. |
| #3 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 8/19/2008 8:35:21 AM |
| #2: parkkker doesn't let facts slow him down when he's on a roll. |
| #4 By 92283 (70.66.78.103) at 8/19/2008 11:01:56 AM |
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#2 "Looks like they were looking specifically at hardware shipped with Vista. "
Nope. They looked at hardware that could run Vista. Quote: "those that normally ship with Vista " Most corporations of any size buy their OS via an agreement with Microsoft. Then they install the corporate image on the PC or use Microsoft (or other) deployment tools. They don't call up HP and buy 20,000 PCs with Vista business. They buy 20,000 PC's with nothing on them or HP install the corporate image on the PC. #3 65 + 35 = 100. Thats a fact. 100% dominance by Windows. |
| #5 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 8/19/2008 12:14:46 PM |
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#4: Most corporations of any size buy their OS via an agreement with Microsoft.
Nonsense. "Most corporations of any size" typically don't call up Dell or HP and order 20,000 systems. What universe are you in again? And yes, 100% of the Windows systems are running Windows. You should have been a statistician. Either that or a genius. |
| #6 By 18 (67.185.60.166) at 8/19/2008 12:20:23 PM |
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Thanks for the education, Parker, though I do realize how corporate sales work.
How many installs of OS X do you speculate are on these machines that would ship to consumers with Vista? I'll give you that some of that 35% could be used for Linux, but that numbers gotta be terrible terrible low (and please let the record show that this may be the first time on this site a fanboy has cited Linux numbers to defend Vista). |
| #7 By 3746 (72.12.161.38) at 8/19/2008 1:09:47 PM |
| I still don't get why this is a big deal. So what if there isn't a wholesale migration to Vista in the business world. There wasn't when XP was released. It doesn't make any sense that they would be some gigantic switch to Vista. XP is a stable and mature OS and been fully tested with all the business apps that these corps are using. They now have to go through and all new testing phase to begin looking at a new OS. In the end it still means a license sold for MS. |
| #8 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 8/19/2008 1:53:46 PM |
| #8: The XP upgrade cycle was nowhere near as bad, or as long. After 12 months, XP was on 40% of systems worldwide. After 18 months, Vista is on less than 20%. The big deal is that everyone is very resistant to Vista which is a huge problem for MS. In the past, users such as myself were skeptical about MS's claims about how many Vista license were shipping. Turns out it was just MS playing with the numbers, again, as usual. |
| #9 By 92283 (142.32.208.234) at 8/19/2008 1:56:03 PM |
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#5 20,000 was an example that holds true for 200 or 500 or 1,000. The corporate ghost image (or equivalent) goes on.
Vista is doing fine. As the exo blog points out: "August 05, 2008 Vista up, XP down in latest community snapshot The tide may be beginning to turn for Vista. In our latest snapshot of the Windows Sentinel community, Microsoft’s much-maligned OS (all flavors) shows up on ~31% of sampled systems – a gain of nearly 12 percentage points versus our previous sample earlier in Q2. At the same time, Windows XP (all flavors) dropped 10 percentage points, from 74% to 64% of sampled systems." 31% of all Windows computers in their network are running Vista. Up 50% from Q2 to Q3. Amazing market penetration. http://weblog.infoworld.com/sentinel/ |
| #10 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 8/19/2008 2:26:14 PM |
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#9: Sure parkkker, whatever you say. It's not like you have a history of cherry-picking your data to back MS or anything. I'm still laughing at your revelation that 65 + 35 = 100.
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| #11 By 9589 (68.17.52.2) at 8/19/2008 2:29:06 PM |
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This is anecdotal evidence at best. Meanwhile, Windows Vista is on tap to sell over 200 million copies by end of year. Wow! What a downer for Microsoft.
Meanwhile, Infoworld is still trying to figure out how to differentiate themselves from the plethora of tech magazines available that most of us in IT get for free. I guess the continuation on a theme - bashing Microsoft is working for them? Sure it is . . . By the way, you have to laugh at the open sore crowd. Remember the predictions, year after year, that THIS was the year of *nix on the desktop? Instead, it has come down to which Microsoft OS is on which computer! " . . . dramatically unpopular Windows Vista," indeed! |
| #12 By 7754 (206.169.247.2) at 8/19/2008 2:41:08 PM |
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#8: "The XP upgrade cycle was nowhere near as bad, or as long."
That may or may not be true, but I think you're comparing apples and oranges somewhat: Windows 2000 = NT 5.0 XP = NT 5.1 Vista = NT 6.0 W2k rollouts were not quick at first (doesn't anyone remember the countless discussions about how Active Directory was unfit for enterprise use, how "no one" was migrating their NT 4 domains to AD, etc. etc.????), though it did eventually make its way into the business world--and was still preferred to XP for quite some time by many. XP piggy-backed on the trail that W2k blazed, with the benefit of a couple years of driver and application compatibility to the core OS that went largely unchanged. If W2k had not existed and the world went straight from NT 4 to XP, I think XP's adoption rate would have been different. |
| #13 By 92283 (142.32.208.234) at 8/19/2008 4:11:37 PM |
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#10 Cherry Picking?
I just read the previous blog post (previous to the one being discussed here) from the same blog. Are you suggesting one of the blog posts is wrong? Which one? Why? Or are just admitting that anything that is anti-Microsoft is good and anything that isn't is bad? What a surprise ... |
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