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Microsoft’s Annual Revenue Reaches $60 Billion | |
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| Time: 16:11 EST/21:11 GMT | News Source: Press Release | Posted By: Michael Dragone | ||
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Microsoft Corp. today announced revenue of $15.84 billion for the fiscal fourth quarter ended June 30, 2008, an 18% increase over the same period of the prior year. Operating income and diluted earnings per share for the quarter were $5.68 billion and $0.46, representing growth of 42% and 48%, respectively, over the same period of the prior year. | ||
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| #1 By 3653 (65.80.181.153) at 7/17/2008 10:17:27 PM |
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Obviously a company on its last good leg.
[snicker] |
| #2 By 8556 (12.210.39.82) at 7/17/2008 11:27:20 PM |
| #1: I wasn't quite sure how to mock the naysayers that believe MS is doomed. You did a fine job. Someday MS will reach their zenith. That day isn't today nor is it likely to be in the near future. |
| #3 By 82766 (122.107.48.75) at 7/18/2008 3:48:09 AM |
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#2: No it won't be any time soon alright. I've read that IBM could just exist from it's patent income, supposedly some US$10 billion per year.
Just as someday we all will reach our zenith and we are quickly moving towards that point by our greenhouse gas emissions... I'm guessing the human race will damage the atmosphere beyond repair (within 20 years we're told) before Microsoft will reach its zenith. |
| #4 By 415 (167.6.245.98) at 7/18/2008 8:14:25 AM |
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That growth is awesome. I remember when they were lauded for just 20% growth in a quarter.
#3: Maybe we'll just do ourselves a favor and run out of crude oil first. Happy Friday! |
| #5 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 7/18/2008 8:59:27 AM |
| They failed to make their earnings expectations, and their stock fell 6% in late trading. Their growth compared to last year seems impressive until you remember last year they took a 1 billion charge for the XBox fiasco. They can't feel too good about their online division losing $488 million for the quarter, either. |
| #6 By 23275 (68.186.182.236) at 7/18/2008 9:01:01 AM |
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not to side-track too much...but do you really believe, I mean truly, that climate change is induced by man-made gasses? Increased solar activity has no role? and the ice caps on Mars that are receeding as well aren't similarly influenced, or that the historical record reflects increases in Co2 as the Earth cools and increases in water vapor as it warms?
I mean really...is the popularist media that effective? and there is no correlation between that media and manufactured goods (bonds) that developed countries are to be forced to buy from less well developed nations - based upon relative carbon indexes (ignoring of course efficiencies within developed nations that result in far greater output relative to fossil fuel use)? None at all? You know... when I was a boy... people never used the word cancer. It was popularly thought that if one had any form of cancer, that they had done something horrible and were being punished. No one did any cancer research because of it. You got it, you died. Antibiotics didn't exist and crazy/nutty beliefs of every sort were common. I'm old enough to know that what I do know does not amount to much at all and old enough to know that collectively, none of us do. I think the Earth, if it cares at all, laughs its poles off at how ridiculous we are. Do not buy into this nonsense or those who seek to re-distribute wealth based upon policies derived from it. The Earth allows us to exist, because it wanted plastic... |
| #7 By 23275 (68.186.182.236) at 7/18/2008 9:07:39 AM |
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#5, Hey Latch... they performed at the lower end of an upwardly adjusted guidance report - and hit well within the range of that upwardly adjusted range.
Drop the spin on the numbers. They are punished because as you say, they are not "cool" - fair enough... that is a faith based economy (e.g., no speci backing the currency) - that is how the market works. The diversification in devices and entertainment is staggering - Xbox, as part of that, does not reflect its own growth (20 million units and the best attach rate in the history of gaming). |
| #8 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 7/18/2008 9:12:03 AM |
| #7: The spin is from MS, sir. Their earnings were (barely) below expectations, their growth would not be anywhere near as good if not the the billion charge last year, and their stock dropped after the announcement while various divisions post massive losses that are only offset by the Windows/Office revenue juggernaut. Who's spinning again? |
| #9 By 7390 (24.191.94.122) at 7/18/2008 10:54:22 AM |
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once could make the argument that their revenue reflects past accomplishments (windows and office). And not items that will lead to future growth (mobile, search, media devices).
Google literally owns the web Apple owns the portable device world Vista was not well received What can a new version of office do that google docs and open office can't can't? Surface is about 5 years out and I am sure that they will botch the execution of it. |
| #10 By 7390 (24.191.94.122) at 7/18/2008 10:56:00 AM |
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on a side note, does anyone have anything on what MS has done so far with the purchase of Danger and their side kick?
Will the sidekick run winmobile? be combined with the Zune |
| #11 By 92283 (142.32.208.233) at 7/18/2008 12:15:52 PM |
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"Vista was not well received "
Vista was not well recieved by the type of people who detested XP until Vista came out. Suddenly Vista was the worst OS ever and XP was the best OS ever. 180 million licenses sold is pretty good. |
| #12 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 7/18/2008 2:52:29 PM |
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#6: How anyone can say that man-made gases have not influenced climate amazes me (I fully expect to be bombarded by 10 or 11 links from parker and the same number of paragraphs from ketchum disputing this ).
Let me ask you something Lloyd - Do you smoke? if not, Look at a smokers lungs compared to a non-smokers. The same thing is happening to the planet. You guys will say - "oh these man-made gases are a small portion of the overall amount in the atmosphere". To that I say that this atmosphere is a delicate balance of many factors and to suggest that pouring tons and tons of MMG into the atmosphere every day would have no impact is just being foolish (or republican, take your pick). If you doubt this, I suggest you swallow a milligram of Polonium 210 daily and see what effect that has on your body. Besides Lloyd, I probably have 90% of the scientific community on my side; you have Parker! |
| #13 By 92283 (142.32.208.233) at 7/18/2008 3:08:53 PM |
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#12 I'll make a couple of points.
1) 20 years ago in June, James Hansen made his big warning speech to Congress. As of June 2008, the 2 satellite temperature systems and GIS have June 2008 COOLER than June 1988. http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/what-a-difference-20-years-makes/ http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2008/07/09/giss-tsdsst-numbers-are-in/ Keep beclowing yourself by not knowing the negligible bit of warming stopped in 1998. 2) CO2 is plant food. It is not smoke. Smoke has a tendency to cool the planet. CO2 has a negligible effect. http://environment.newscientist.com/article/mg19926634.800-cleaner-skies-explain-surprise-rate-of-warming.html?DCMP=ILC-arttsrhcol&nsref=specrt12_pic "GOODBYE air pollution and smoky chimneys, hello brighter days. That's been the trend in Europe for the past three decades - but unfortunately cleaning up the skies has allowed more of the sun's rays to pierce the atmosphere, contributing to at least half the warming that has occurred." Go ahead. Keep chanting the mantra of "consensus". Its cooler than it was in 1988. Thats a fact. This post was edited by NotParkerToo on Friday, July 18, 2008 at 15:09. |
| #14 By 1896 (68.153.171.248) at 7/18/2008 3:33:05 PM |
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#12: And the Poles are melting... but wait: this is happening because of some secret weapons that Saddam Hussein triggered before Iraq was invaded.
What can you expected from and Administration whose energy planned was drafted with the help of Enron geniuses? |
| #15 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 7/18/2008 3:56:57 PM |
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#12: I've always found it interesting that right-wing Republican, Bush-loving MS apologists are also always global warming deniers. The same people that advocated swift action against Iraq because there's inconclusive evidence of a threat to the US are the same ones who advocate doing nothing about global warming despite inconclusive evidence of a threat to the entire planet. In other words, "We have evidence but don't know for sure so we need to invade Iraq now!" vs "We have evidence but don't know for sure so we should do absolutely nothing!".
#13: You have a history of cherry-picking stats to suit your argument, so your comparison of just one month 20 years apart is suspicious. The chart showing 20 years of temp shows an obvious increase over time. That looks like global warming to me, even if you can find one month in particular that is cooler than 20 years ago. For your first link, you claim it's getting cooler. In your second, you claim it's getting warmer. Which is it? |
| #16 By 23275 (68.186.182.236) at 7/18/2008 4:36:57 PM |
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#15, Climates change. The climate is changing now. What is not certain is what is behind that change, or even how to predict in what ways the climate will change over any given period of time. My position is a lot more balanced and a-political. A lot more information will have to be studied to begin to understand climate change well enough to formulate global policies around that understanding.
You don't live in a Republic (neither do I any longer), so I can't expect you to understand what a Federal Republic is. It isn't a socialist democracy. As a retired soldier and a man who fought to preserve our former Republic, I would not have invaded any country post 9/11. In fact, I wrote the President via the Vice President, whom I knew professionally and strongly recommended against any large scale war, and instead I offered that we immediately pursue a national policy of 100% energy independence within the decade - drawing a comparison to the national effort expended to put men on the moon. I offered a comprehensive effort mxing all immediate actions, like conservation, local exploration, and tax incentives be implemented parallel to hundreds of billions in spending - not for bombs, but research into alternative fuels and incentives to universities, and private business for those who made meaningful advances and made new discoveries. I also proposed that as a nation, we share our discoveries with the world openly while we simultaneously opened our schools to young people at risk of becoming terrorists in foreign countries. Your labels for people are not always appropriate. Any person who has seen war, hates it and understands how wasteful it is. |
| #17 By 23275 (68.186.182.236) at 7/18/2008 4:52:45 PM |
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All, if you really wish to understand what role man "may" have in climate change, it isn't Co2, it's water vapor! e.g., we may have made the planet more humid through man-made lakes, irrigation and the preservation of wetlands - yes, that is a biggest one. Also, and most especially across Europe, where they started using lead free fuels and catalytic converters in the late 80's and early 90's - not being required for many more years! (the United States made them mandatory in 1975). These produce a great deal of water vapor and the skies cleared a great deal over cities - allowing much more solar energy to reach the planet.
Still, these make rather small contributions. The biggest reason? A much more active sun. The polar ice cap on Mars is melting proportionately to our own. The moons of Jupiter display melting as well. Each of these has little human activity on, or near them. Co2 concentrations in our atmosphere cool the planet and the same scientists that asserted that man-made Co2 was behind AGW, are now saying that it's water vapor. Radicals among them blame human activity - wetland preservation being the leading cause they record. |
| #18 By 11888 (70.48.239.239) at 7/18/2008 6:18:43 PM |
| http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/sun/ |
| #19 By 92283 (142.32.208.233) at 7/18/2008 7:04:45 PM |
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#14 "While the news focus has been on the lowest ice extent since satellite monitoring began in 1979 for the Arctic, the Southern Hemisphere (Antarctica) has quietly set a new record for most ice extent since 1979. "
http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/a_new_record_for_antartic_total_ice_extent Its easy to deny global warming when the warming actually stopped in 1998. Why amazes me is that cooling is ignored. "so your comparison of just one month 20 years apart is suspicious" Ok. I'll pick 1998. Temperatures are down .9C from 10 years ago. However, 1998 was an anomaly. But its been good for for the CO2 is poison business. CO2 is plant food. It is cooling now. CO2 is still rising. "In your second, you claim it's getting warmer" The NH is still slightly warmer ... most of the rest of the earth is colder. The reason is of course that cleaner air allows more sunshine. The UK (which has its data online) regularly gets 30% more sunshine than it used to. #18 Dimming ended in the early 1990s. NASA says so. "The NASA study also sheds light on the puzzling observations by other scientists that the amount of sunlight reaching Earth's surface, which had been steadily declining in recent decades, suddenly started to rebound around 1990. This switch from a "global dimming" trend to a "brightening" trend happened just as global aerosol levels started to decline, Mishchenko said." http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2007/aerosol_dimming.html Get some facts that are supportable for a change. This post was edited by NotParkerToo on Friday, July 18, 2008 at 19:05. |
| #20 By 92283 (142.32.208.233) at 7/18/2008 7:10:47 PM |
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By the way, if you live on the west coast get ready for 20-30 years of cooling.
The PDO has shifted. http://junkscience.com/apr08/La_Nina_and_Pacific_Decadal_Oscillation_Cool_the_Pacific.pdf http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/07/climate-trends-with-some-noise-removed/?hp ENSO is looking bad too .... Get a clue Gorebots. |
| #21 By 23275 (68.186.182.236) at 7/18/2008 7:26:13 PM |
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#19, 20, Yep and another zinger...
Gore et al used awful events like Katrina and Ivan as an illustration of the effects of AGW - passionately and effectively playing on fear and politics - linking these events to AGW. Here's the problem... when the upper atmosphere is warmer, it produces fewer and less powerful major storm systems as it stabilizes the upper mass. Gore and his hacks presented exactly the opposite and played on a lot of emotion and very bad politics. And guys, I can tell you what it was like when nearly everyone was hungry pretty much all the time. If we keep mucking around and applying BS to a faith (non-speci) based economy, we're going to create a disaster - which ends in wars that most of you reading this cannot begin to imagine. Abandon socialist ideals and if you see poverty and want to change it - then jump in and change it right around you - you can do that and you don't need a government to do it for you. Also, business owners need to teach their people about more than their jobs - teach them to build wealth and share what they help you build. |
| #22 By 32810 (99.252.203.192) at 7/18/2008 8:37:13 PM |
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Okay... So Microsoft made 60 billion. In other news, global warming....
How about the fact that you can now burn within 10 mins during the month of April in Canada? When I was a kid (in the 60's-70's) you could play outside all day during summer, temperatures in the 90's and rarely suffering from sunburn. What about allergies? They seem to be much more common, as does asthma these days. Besides. What's wrong with breathing cleaner air or paying less to drive your vehicle, heat and/or cool your house? Fine, you don't believe in global warming, but what harm does it do when there are clearly benefits to be gained? Have you seen populated cites in China? Look at the smog, how could that be healthy? So your willing to spend your time debating statistics from who knows where, but ignore what's right in front of your nose? Do you enjoy paying $100+ to fill up your SUV? How do you explain record temperatures in North America?-- or is there another cigarette company statistic to prove otherwise? Horse Hockey! This post was edited by midfingr on Friday, July 18, 2008 at 20:38. |
| #23 By 92283 (70.66.78.103) at 7/18/2008 9:02:26 PM |
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#22 They got snow in April on the west coast I hear. Kind of unusually cold too in June.
"Some of the world's top athletes had to seek medical attention after competing in what may have been the coldest swim in World Championship Triathlon history in downtown Vancouver." http://www.cbc.ca/sports/story/2008/06/06/bc-vancouver-triathalon-hypothermic.html Not much chance of sunburn in June in Vancouver this year ... let alone April. "What's wrong with breathing cleaner air" Nothing. But CO2 isn't air pollution. Its plant food. Greenhouse operators are now bumping CO2 up to 1000ppm to up plant yield. Smog is mostly cause SO2 (Sulphur Dioxide). Don't mix it up with CO2. Different gases. Of course volcanoes produce both CO2 and SO2. Did you know there were as many as 3,000,000 underwater volcanoes dumping vast quantities of CO2 into the ocean? "How do you explain record temperatures in North America?-" Do you mean record lows? http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/2008/feb/feb08.html "The average temperature across both the contiguous U.S. and the globe during December 2007-February 2008 (climatological boreal winter) was the coolest since 2001" "It was the 54th coolest winter since national records began in 1895" That means 59 Winters were warmer than the 2007/2008 winter. |
| #24 By 8556 (12.210.39.82) at 7/18/2008 9:06:49 PM |
| Sunspots have been "gone" for two years. The result is fewer solar flares and a slight cooling of the atmosphere on earth. There is strong eveidence that all warming, and climatic cooling, on the earth is really controlled by the sun's energy output. Go figure. |
| #25 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 7/19/2008 10:37:23 AM |
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#22: Bingo
#6 Martian icecaps are melting because of orbital change, not increased solar radiation. #23: "But CO2 isn't air pollution. Its plant food." Yes, but have you checked the plant count lately? Tropical Rain forests, the main consumers of CO2 are disappearing. What is going to eat all of this excess C02? and by the way, Latch is right, you are a cherry picker!!! I respect Ketchum a great deal! He has time and again proved his technical prowess, but he too is cherry-picking stats here. Every article or link Ketchum and Parker point out has associated links that refute their points. Bottom line, I still have 90% of all scientists on my side. Take the blinders off guys; this problem goes beyond political parties. |
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