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Jim Allchin subpoenaed in "Vista Capable" lawsuit | |
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| Time: 09:44 EST/14:44 GMT | News Source: Blorge | Posted By: Kenneth van Surksum | ||
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Jim Allchin, the former co-president of Microsoft’s Platforms and Service division has been subpoenaed in the Vista Capable class action lawsuit. For those of you that haven’t been following the case, back in 2006 Microsoft came up with the idea that computers would be rated with two-tiers of performance when upgrading to Vista. Those that could only run the most basic features would be “Vista Capable” and those that could handle all the features would be “Premium Ready.” | ||
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| #1 By 18227 (72.219.244.21) at 3/26/2008 6:35:48 PM |
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>> The suit alleges that the “Vista Capable” campaign lead consumers
led, not "lead" |
| #2 By 82766 (202.154.80.82) at 3/26/2008 8:12:08 PM |
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We'll get this out first... I agree with the "intent" of this court case. Microsoft reduced the hardware requirements for the Vista Capable "program" just to keep Intel happy (ref: those internal emails that were released)
That also raises the question, shouldn't Intel also be involved with this case? But... *technically* and *legally* aren't Microsoft in the right here? Those Vista Capable PCs ARE running Vista... just the low-end version of it but they're still running Vista. To me, its the same as Clinton saying "I did not have relations with that woman"... its all down to the legal definitions of words I guess :) |
| #3 By 2231 (71.191.205.49) at 3/26/2008 8:52:52 PM |
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I guess it comes down to what IS Vista.
When Microsoft advertised Vista did they ever show a version that didn't include Aero or the other Wow features? If they didn't then they are going to have a hard time winning this. It would be like MS advertising a version of Office that included Word and Outlook, and then after you installed it you find it's Wordpad and Outlook Express. There's Vista and then there's Vista. |
| #4 By 88850 (221.128.147.176) at 3/27/2008 4:18:10 AM |
| My parents (in India) recently bought a new comp. I told them to buy at least 2 GB of RAM, Core 2 Duo, ATI or NVIDIA GPU and a decent sized HDD. They didn't listen to me (I'm in USA) because the local computer reseller "felt" that 1 GB of RAM, a Pentium D and Intel shitty graphics were enough for Vista. Now they're complaining..I can't install XP on their comp from here till I visit my home. Who's to blame? The computer seller? Or Microsoft for their stated low requirements? MS states on the Vista DVD: Any modern 1 GHz CPU which that ~!@$ Pentium D happens to be, 1 GB of RAM, 40 GB HDD (really, Vista users check your %windir%\WinSxS folder size) and Aero-capable graphics, which Intel's low end chipsets unfortunately just meet. |
| #5 By 82766 (122.107.17.90) at 3/27/2008 6:56:52 AM |
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@schwit - Yes Microsoft did demonstrate Vista Home Basic and yes it was included in various (but limited) marketing streams.
Of course, Microsoft "mainly" showed everyone Vista "Premium" or at least a version of Vista with the full aero-graphics enabled etc. I believe they're in the same situation as <insert any car manufacturer brand> advertising their new car on TV with fine print flashed at the bottom of the screen saying "Overseas Model Shown" or "Model shown with all available options"? They're showing you the "highest available" model, which is just one "feature list" of the models available... exactly the same as Microsoft did. BUT... I still believe they never should have caved to Intel and released Vista Home Basic! This post was edited by MyBlueRex on Thursday, March 27, 2008 at 06:58. |
| #6 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 3/27/2008 7:04:28 AM |
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I think all parties bear some responsibility here. Microsoft for kowtowing to Intel, the retail stores and sites for not setting policy when a problem was realized, the sales reps for not knowing what they were selling, and the Customer for not doing research.
If this case goes against MS, I wonder if they'll pressure Intel in some back room deal to recoup some of these losses. |
| #7 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 3/27/2008 12:13:02 PM |
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#5: Microsoft is ultimately responsible for the content of their marketing campaigns. I'm sure MS didn't just do Intel a favour out of the goodness of its heart. It's not the job of retail to refine MS's confusing marketing messages. The average consumer doesn't care about the OS and expects the new computer they bought to just work, and work the way they saw it work on TV and in the web/magazine ads. But please, keep going. It's been entertaining watching you spin yourself into contortions trying to show how none of this is Microsoft's fault.
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| #8 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 3/27/2008 12:43:36 PM |
| #7: "The average consumer doesn't care about the OS" Then what the hell is the lawsuit about? |
| #9 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 3/27/2008 2:29:43 PM |
| #8: I suspect that average consumer didn't really care about MS's multiple antitrust problems either, but that didn't make the US and EU actions less valid. The suit is there so that those consumers who do care can get relief. |
| #10 By 28801 (71.58.231.46) at 3/27/2008 7:43:53 PM |
| #9: The suit is there to line the pockets of lawyers. |
| #11 By 92283 (64.180.201.131) at 3/27/2008 11:28:35 PM |
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Microsoft should have had a label for systems with Nvidia video cards.
"Death To Vista Inside" "nearly 30% of logged Vista crashes were due to NVIDIA driver problems, according to a Microsoft data included in the bundle. That's some 479,326 hung systems, if you're keeping score at home, and it's in first place by a large margin -- Microsoft clocks in at number two at 17.9 percent, and ATI is fourth with 9.3 percent." http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/nvidia-drivers-responsible-for-nearly-30-of-vista-crashes-in-20/ |
| #12 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 3/28/2008 11:24:25 AM |
| #10: That's a byproduct of all lawsuits. |
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