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  Firefox 3 Beta 2 Arrives As Mozilla and Microsoft Jostle for Security Crown
Time: 01:27 EST/06:27 GMT | News Source: InformationWeek | Posted By: Kenneth van Surksum

Firefox 3 Beta 2 was released on Tuesday, featuring several new security features.

The new beta software includes improved protection from cross-site JSON data leaks, tighter restrictions on cookies, clearer Web site identification by clicking on the site favicon in the location bar, better malware protection, stricter SSL error pages, anti-virus integration in the download manager, and version checking for insecure plugins.

"If you visit a malicious site using Firefox 3, it will block the site and do it with a user interface that doesn't allow a click-through," said Window Snyder of Mozilla Corporation, whose business card reads "Chief Security Something-or-Other."

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#1 By 92283 (64.180.196.143) at 12/20/2007 3:28:58 PM
"If you visit a malicious site using Firefox 3, it will block the site "

"Firefox gets an updated list of malware sites from Google "

All hail Google ... decider of what sites you can visit.

How soon will sites critical of Google get on the list?

#2 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 12/21/2007 7:26:08 AM
I'm actually suprised they haven't integrated GreenBorder with FF yet.

#3 By 2960 (72.196.195.185) at 12/21/2007 7:49:23 AM
Ok, so Google has a list of KNOWN Malware sites, and uses this to the users advantage to prevent accidental visits to these sites.

And you bitch because you can't visit them!

You, sir, are the ultimate definition of the No-Win Scenario.

You really should change your screen name to Kobayashi Maru. Or NotKobayashiMaru, whichever strikes your funny bone (if you have one).

Feel free to fire up IE and visit those sites. I'm sure nothing bad will happen :)

#4 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 12/21/2007 8:18:39 AM
#1: Of course, the IE phishing filter, which does *exactly* the same thing, is OK by you. You're hilarious.

#3: You, sir, are the ultimate definition of the No-Win Scenario.

It almost sounds like you're saying he's a loser.

#5 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 12/21/2007 9:06:59 AM
<montalbon>Tech my old friend... You're still alive!</montalbon>

This post was edited by rxcall on Friday, December 21, 2007 at 09:11.

#6 By 2960 (72.196.195.185) at 12/21/2007 10:54:07 AM
#4 - Not at all. I would NEVER do that to anyone here. I'm just saying you can't win against his logic :)

#5 - LOL!

TL

#7 By 47914 (24.225.231.107) at 12/21/2007 11:18:53 AM
Why doesn't Google provide this list for everyone?

#8 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 12/21/2007 12:16:30 PM
#6: I'm not sure that 'logic' is a word I would ever use when describing Parkkker.

#9 By 54556 (67.131.75.3) at 12/21/2007 12:41:26 PM
#7

they do

#10 By 60455 (71.12.191.230) at 12/24/2007 9:29:32 AM
Really? FF's APF is rudimentary, at best. IE 7's is by far, more comprehensive and is measured to be more effective.

While of concern, it is not surprising that IE 7's APF is not well represented, or accurately described here, or elsewhere on the web.

First, IE 7's APF features much more than just a lookup of sites [as FF's does]. IE 7, or the APF tool-bar for IE 6 uses its own scanning engine in addition to a repository of on-line sites; however, unlike FF, IE doesn't have to do a lookup and the database feeds the localized scanning engine, which makes for a faster and more accurate browsing experience in the context of AP.

Further, the APF<Filtration> is extended to Windows Mail, Outlook and Exchange, where a large number of industry partners participate in a comprehensive effort to significantly reduce the impact of Phish sites and mal-ware in general [for example, the message screener, baked client and server side, works to reduce the impact of Phish against those applications facing potential threats]. Consider reading more here, http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/9/5/89538E7A-A094-41A6-921A-4D79E9B41A76/CorporatePhishingPolicy.doc

Finally, APF is but one layer in MS's protection strategy. Mal-ware encountered at the APF would have had to defeat or pass other layers [in the browser, AV and Defender], and it would have to pass, or defeat several additional layers as it moved closer to restricted user space <the default in all versions of Vista, and recommended space in XP> BEFORE it encountered yet more layers beyond the browser <UIPI Brokering, Secure/Protected Desktop and UAC> BEFORE it reached a user's conscience and sound judgment.

FF, regretfully, does not benefit from this layered approach. Worse, where FF/Moz could use MS technologies available to all third parties, it has chosen not to - apparently relying upon the web's ubiquitous army of FUD slingers, bad press and inaccurate reporting [and a ton of money from Google] instead.

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