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| Time: 03:19 EST/08:19 GMT | News Source: *Linked Within Post* | Posted By: Kenneth van Surksum | ||
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With the initial performance characteristics of Windows Vista leaving much to be desired (see our previous post on the subject), many IT organizations have put off deploying the new OS until the first service pack (SP1) is released by Microsoft early next year. The thinking goes that SP1 will address all of these early performance issues and somehow bring Windows Vista on par with - or at least closer to - Windows XP in terms of runtime performance. Unfortunately, this is simply not the case. Extensive testing by the exo.performance.network (www.xpnet.com) research staff shows that SP1 provides no measurable relief to users saddled with sub-par performance under Vista. | ||
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| #1 By 82766 (211.30.72.158) at 11/19/2007 3:49:50 AM |
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Its a beta! its a beta! what do you expect?!?! sigh...
When Vista itself was in beta, it was a slug until the second to last build and then, zoom it went! Yes, if you think Vista is "slow" now, imagine what those betas were like! :-) |
| #2 By 46122 (68.237.245.200) at 11/19/2007 8:03:51 AM |
| I find Vista runs faster then XP on the same hardware |
| #3 By 89249 (64.207.240.90) at 11/19/2007 8:34:30 AM |
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I have yet to put Vista on my primary Work or Home machines (waiting for my regular hardware/software upgrade cycle probably march next year with quadcores). In the time that I have used and supported computers of my friends and family I've found Vista to be pretty good.
Most of the bitching I've heard can revolve around people just having to do something different. But I have found it funny that MS gave to the masses what the "experts" have been crying for... and now those same "experts" complain about the changes. |
| #4 By 65179 (221.128.181.104) at 11/19/2007 8:54:15 AM |
| On the fastest possible machine you can buy today as an ethusiast which you build yourself, probably Vista will run faster than XP. But it runs slow the average current generation of PCs (typical dual-core CPUs, 1-2 GB RAM, 160-320 GB HDDs etc). It has always been like that with Windows. Older versions run faster on older PCs, on very very fast new PCs, old versions reach a speed/scalability limitation, then new versions run faster. At any rate, I've not heard ANYONE saying Vista absolutely flies on current PCs, maybe on Intel's CSI generation of CPUs, Vista will fly and Windows 7 will later arrive to slow them down. Very true-what Intel giveth, MS taketh it away. |
| #5 By 28801 (71.58.231.46) at 11/19/2007 10:16:08 AM |
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#4: you seem to single out Microsoft on this: "Very true-what Intel giveth, MS taketh it away"
Let's face it virtually every software vendor is guilty of this. In a race to provide more features than the competition, software has become enormously bloated and unwieldy. Developers have become lazy in leaving legacy code around and not leveraging system resources in the best way. To suggest that this is Microsoft’s issue alone is not at all fair. |
| #6 By 8556 (12.208.163.138) at 11/19/2007 10:21:58 AM |
| #5: Aren't Microsoft coding tools/languages/Visual.net stuff, also used to create the bloated software made by companies other than MS? |
| #7 By 29967 (72.221.79.220) at 11/19/2007 11:42:19 AM |
| this is an outdated load of bullshit..... The first build was rather unsatisfying but the second build is being very well received. |
| #8 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 11/19/2007 12:57:42 PM |
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http://www.computerworlduk.com/management/infrastructure/applications/news/index.cfm?newsid=6258
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| #9 By 82766 (202.154.80.85) at 11/19/2007 6:14:53 PM |
| #9 - Too true!! Plus in regards to Office 2007's performance, we also need some major performance enhancements with its coming SP1 !! |
| #10 By 16797 (65.95.24.56) at 11/19/2007 6:22:25 PM |
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#4 "Very true-what Intel giveth, MS taketh it away."
Well, how about, for example, OpenOffice? Firefox? Netbeans? My friend, if you haven't used those you don't know what slow or memory hungy is.. |
| #11 By 12071 (203.185.215.144) at 11/19/2007 9:00:38 PM |
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#1 " Its a beta! its a beta! what do you expect?!?! sigh... "
But the SP1 is based almost entirely on release patches all of which are production quality so I'm not quite sure why you're screaming up and down about it being a beta... sure, they're calling it a beta, but the majority of the code in there, even the integration of all of those patches, is NOT beta. The fact that there's no noticeable performance improvements further suggests that there's very little in there aside from previously released patches which is a shame... as performance improvements is the one thing Vista is in dire need of! #11 I would have used the example of Rational Rose but each to their own I guess. I do however have to ask if you've used any recent versions (i.e. anything > v1.0) of those products as although they have some quirks here and there it's definitely nothing in comparison to how slow Vista is for instance. |
| #12 By 82766 (211.30.72.158) at 11/20/2007 2:31:59 AM |
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Chris - you are only partially correct about it being based "almost entirely on release patches". There is some "extra stuff" as well as those released patches.
While the SP1 we have at the moment also still contains installation debugging code for tracking any installation woes along with the certain installation methods. So on your installation of Vista on your PC what do you find slow? |
| #13 By 88850 (221.128.181.106) at 11/20/2007 5:43:35 AM |
| Whenever I think of Vista, I think of "Configuring updates...please wait..." |
| #14 By 12071 (203.214.153.24) at 11/20/2007 7:01:47 AM |
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#13 Hence why I said almost. My point being that it's unlike every other piece of software which goes through alpha, beta and RC testing so simply yelling out "leave it alone, it's just a beta!" isn't quite on the money.
"So on your installation of Vista on your PC what do you find slow?" If I was to narrow it down to a single item I'd say Explorer. But saying that it's slow is being generous. I have multiple HDD's (mix of IDE and SATA), some with a single root partition, others with multiple partitions so with Explorer crashing every now and then, waiting for that stupidly annoying green progress bar to finish whatever in the world it's doing and the unbelievably slow file copy times between HDD's and partitions I can honestly say that it has to be Vista's worse feature. SP's have always been a glimmer of hope for all of Microsoft's OS releases promising to bring better stability, performance, security etc and to hear that SP1 is absolutely no better... well it says a lot... even when the SP is not yet complete and one of the tests performed was a file copy operation. |
| #15 By 28801 (71.58.231.46) at 11/20/2007 7:54:23 AM |
| #6: Bad coders create poor software regardless of the development tool. |
| #16 By 82766 (202.154.80.85) at 11/20/2007 11:58:37 PM |
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#15 - Chris, I suggest you wait until Vista SP1 is released... I think you will be pleasantly surprised
Even with your configuration, remembering that IDE is very CPU driven and that will slow your PC down a lot every time you use those drives or explorer refreshes. I do know what you're saying about explorer tho... it could be a lot better. Of course, in reality, they need to recode it from scratch :-) BTW, I've never bothered waiting for that green bar myself, you do realise that you don't have to?? |
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