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  Vista Is Hitting Its Stride
Time: 11:07 EST/16:07 GMT | News Source: eWeek | Posted By: Andre Da Costa

SEATTLE (Reuters)—Microsoft Corp's Windows Vista is starting to see mass adoption from businesses nearly a year after it was released, the company said while predicting a strong first holiday season for the product.

"We feel like we are starting to hit our stride not only in demand, but in deployment in business," Kevin Johnson, president of Microsoft's platform and services group, said in an interview.

Microsoft delivered quarterly results last week that eclipsed Wall Street's most bullish forecasts, helped in part by strong demand for Vista, the latest upgrade to its flagship Windows operating system. Vista was introduced in January.

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#1 By 2960 (68.100.247.204) at 11/1/2007 11:27:37 AM
I sure wish we had PM's here :)

Lloyd - Circuit City has the DGL-4500 on sale for only $149!

I'm glad my DLink direct order didn't pan out. This is $100 cheaper, and $50 cheaper than any one else lists it for!

I don't care if it back-orders. My DIR-655 is just fine for now. For $149, I'll wait for it :)

If it happens to come in within 2 weeks from now, I'll even be able to return my DIR-655 to best buy for a refund :)

TL

#2 By 65179 (221.128.147.153) at 11/1/2007 12:48:11 PM
MS stock is also at its highest since June 2000. (http://finance.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=MSFT)

#3 By 52115 (66.181.69.250) at 11/1/2007 1:11:03 PM
Not sure about it hitting its stride.. I know we're dreading the day when the first new machines come with Vista installed on them.. Two IT people here have machines with Vista installed on them for their home computers and both are very close to wiping and going back to XP..

Having a heck of a time connecting to a network printer on an XP machine.. Moved to the Vista box and the Vista box installs it, then doesn't see it..

#4 By 8556 (12.208.163.138) at 11/1/2007 2:15:48 PM
#3: If your network printer has a dynamically assigned IP address then Vista can lose sight of it. If you can assign a fixed address to the printer, point Vista to it, that should solve the connection problem.

#5 By 23275 (172.16.10.31) at 11/1/2007 2:23:51 PM
#3, please push, via a GPO, the LLTD support native in Vista, out to your XP SP2 clients - it WILL END about every challenge you might have. Please go here, http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=4F01A31D-EE46-481E-BA11-37F485FA34EA&displaylang=en

Also, <sorry for the plug, but I wrote this stuff so I could avoid "Walls of lketchum Text">
learn more about what is cool in Vista networking and how to perhaps explore it more here,
http://blog.libertech.net/blogs/lketchum/archive/2007/06/23/holy-toredo-vista-networking-rocks.aspx I update this stuff regularly.

If you want to know what this works and what does not, let me know and I'll fog out something and link to it - again, keeping the walls a bit shorter.

TL, Thanks for the heads up - I will get one ASAP. <it just looks cool and I love D-Link gear for the SOHO opposite Vista!>

#6 By 23275 (172.16.10.31) at 11/1/2007 2:27:03 PM
Oh, about the thread.... yes, Vista surely is hitting its stride.

The latest Nvidia drivers are solid and the continuous stream of machine/user specific updates via the platform's native reliability and performance tools are working exactly as Jim A. and MS designed them to. <Tipping my hat once again to Jim and the platforms group> - it is amazing to see the OS mature so rapidly and so specifically suited to each individual machine and user... just great stuff!

#7 By 28801 (71.58.231.46) at 11/1/2007 9:54:26 PM
Here's the rub folks - Vista may be hitting it's stride but what about the third-party software vendors? The company I work for has hundreds of third-party apps that have to be certified under Vista not to mention all of the home-grown apps that run the business. I fear that Microsoft's next OS will be out before there is major adoption of Vista in large companies like mine.

#8 By 82766 (202.154.80.85) at 11/2/2007 12:12:13 AM
#7 - *MY* assumption is unless Microsoft makes MAJOR changes again (graphics/sound subsystems, UAC, etc) what works on Vista will work on Windows 7.

Given all the mess with nVidia and ATI drivers this first year, whats the chances of Microsoft changing the entire graphics and sound subsystems again?? I'd suggest NIL :)

It was hard enough dealing with "sub standard" graphics drivers during the alpha and beta testing... I do feel for those that still haven't got worthwhile graphics drivers!!

#9 By 2960 (68.100.247.204) at 11/2/2007 7:19:40 AM
It actually shipped!

Looks like Circuit City has indeed managed to get them in stock :)

TL

#10 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 11/2/2007 8:01:24 AM
For most applications, it’s the UAC that will trip them up, and in many cases this will be a significant rewrite for portions of the apps. I’m not talking about drivers but about the business apps that run companies – everything from Snagit to Informatica and Embarcadero. All of these have to be rewritten to deal with UAC and other Vista idiosyncrasies then tested on each and every machine configuration in a myriad of software combinations. This is a major undertaking that will take years. So I assess that while Vista may be hitting its stride in the home user and small business arenas, it hasn’t even laced its jogging shoes with respect to major corporate adoption, and probably won’t until the Windows 7 is out.

#11 By 23275 (71.12.191.230) at 11/2/2007 11:01:57 AM
#10, Techsmith's SnagIt has been fine from day one - though they do have new versions.
Camtasia 3 wasn't, but 5 was released for Vista a long while ago. Devs needed to be writing for lower level users all along - they could have. Some did, most didn't. Houses have had years to work with this. Video drivers... well... that was a different matter, but not nearly as complex as people make it out to be - there the card mans. did it to themselves. I looked at that one for over a year and what I learned suggested to me that Microsoft bailed at least one of them out - going so far as to put GDI+ back into the OS where less powerful GPU's would at least initially, persist for Vista Home Basic systems.

I'd consider reading this as a start, http://download.microsoft.com/download/9/c/5/9c5b2167-8017-4bae-9fde-d599bac8184a/Vista_perf.doc

#12 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 11/2/2007 11:26:15 AM
I was using SnagIt as an example of the more basic software to the more complex (Informatica) to demonstrate that all software vendors have to update their products to play nicely with Vista and each other before major corporate adoption can occur.

#13 By 17996 (131.107.0.105) at 11/2/2007 1:08:10 PM
#10 -- The sad thing is, if these apps would have been following Microsoft guidelines released over 7 years ago, they would've had NO problems with UAC.

Apps that work properly under limited user accounts should have NO problems with UAC. And guess what, limited user accounts have been around since NT 3.1 was first released in 1993. Working properly under limited user accounts was part of the Windows 2000 logo certification requirements, and has been part of every certification requirements since then.

Now I'm not saying that all these apps should've been seeking certification. But they should at least have been looking at the guidelines to see what the best practices are for writing Windows apps.

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