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Microsoft 'ecosystem' owns 42 percent of IT | |
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| Time: 02:00 EST/07:00 GMT | News Source: ZDNet Australia | Posted By: Kenneth van Surksum | ||
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Microsoft now has the data to prove how influential they are, with a new study showing they control over 40 percent of the IT industry. The software giant commissioned research company IDC to survey 82 countries and measure the economic impact of the IT industry, and Microsoft specifically. Overall, the results were not surprising, according to Craig Mundie, chief research and strategy officer at Microsoft. IT contributes to economic growth and job growth more than other industries, according to the IDC study. The study managed to quantify the Microsoft business universe. There are about 14 million people working at companies that touch Microsoft software in some way, either as hardware distributors, services companies, or software developers. | ||
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| #1 By 1401 (216.145.133.6) at 10/18/2007 7:41:45 AM |
| What a coincidence! 42 percent is also the average uptime of a Windows machine! |
| #2 By 23603 (70.82.84.89) at 10/18/2007 8:14:31 AM |
| To chrishedlund : You are still running WinNT 3.51 right? |
| #3 By 1401 (216.145.133.6) at 10/18/2007 8:25:26 AM |
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At home: running Ubuntu 704 (will be upgrading to 710 today :-)
At work: Windows XP (tried Vista Business - that lasted about 2 days til I said F it) And, to date there isn't a single installation of Vista in my company (I work in a datacenter - we manage hundreds of computers - mostly server of course) I do support a few Vista machines at customer's sites... This post was edited by chrishedlund on Thursday, October 18, 2007 at 08:27. |
| #4 By 3746 (216.16.225.210) at 10/18/2007 9:48:53 AM |
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There isn't a single copy of vista running in a datacenter that are mostly servers. And this is surprising how? I mean I deal with lots of clients and some are still running Windows 2000. Vista won't see major penetration on the business side for at least a couple years. Same thing happened with XP. |
| #5 By 13030 (198.22.121.110) at 10/18/2007 10:14:40 AM |
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From the article: "In the case of Microsoft, for every dollar it earns, partners earn just under eight dollars."
A very telling comment for those of us making our livelihood off of IT. |
| #6 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 10/18/2007 11:32:57 AM |
| #1 & 3: If you work in a datacenter and can only keep a Window's server up 42 percent of the time, perhaps you should consider a new line of work. |
| #7 By 32132 (142.32.208.232) at 10/18/2007 2:56:03 PM |
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#3 "tried Vista Business - that lasted about 2 days til I said F it"
You and Latch ... same person? Alter ego? |
| #8 By 1401 (65.255.137.29) at 10/18/2007 5:46:37 PM |
| Obviously #4 - our servers aren't running Vista. But as you could imagine, we do have an entire staff of people who use workstations, and none of those workstations are running Vista. My point is, this is a very technical staff, not your average office worker who just happens to use a computer at work... |
| #9 By 3746 (72.12.161.38) at 10/18/2007 7:31:06 PM |
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#8
And i still don't get why this is surprising. Not one of the business I deal with have any Vista systems on their desktops except in a test environment. This won't change until at least SP1 and probably longer after that. The same was true for XP and the same will be true the next time MS brings out an OS. You make it sound because businesses aren't using it must be crap when there are many other reasons why most businesses are rolling out Vista systems. |
| #10 By 16797 (65.95.26.236) at 10/18/2007 7:39:41 PM |
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#8 Most of the companies won't be switching to Vista any time soon - XP works fine, SP3 is around the corner.. Simply, no need to rush to Vista, why would they - it always involves a lot of work.
But it doesn't mean that Vista would not work just fine or even better. I mean, I got new car this year.. I could replace it next year when new model is released, but if I don't, does it mean that new model is crap? I don't think so. |
| #11 By 1401 (216.145.133.6) at 10/18/2007 8:31:24 PM |
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What if the new car model came out 5 years later and the only thing that changed was the body style?
There is absolutely no value in Vista. There isn't a SINGLE thing in Vista that makes me say "I have to have that" In fact, I find myself less productive in Vista than in XP. Simple as that... |
| #12 By 15406 (99.224.112.94) at 10/18/2007 11:10:12 PM |
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#6: I don't remember seeing where he said it as his job to maintain the servers. You might want to see a doctor about those hallucinations of yours. Or is it just a case of your general inability to comprehend simple English, because you seem to do it a lot?
#7: No, we're just like millions of others who didn't like Vista. Any second now Ketchum will barge in here and lecture me on how Vista is the greatest thing in the Universe and how he has a blog post written by himself to prove it. #10: Funny how MS always says that switching to Linux would involve a lot of re-training costs and software/hardware incompatibility problems. But when it comes to the same issues when moving to Vista, business should disregard all that and hop aboard right away. Don't wait for SP1, install Vista now! Every copy must go at Crazy Steve's House of Vista and Flying Chairs! |
| #13 By 23275 (71.12.191.230) at 10/19/2007 7:05:38 AM |
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#12, Let's try this another way, Latch - since no measure of facts or real work is enough for you - let's just examine this from a buisiness perspective:
I just got back from another deployment into a market area that we have moved into. Previously, it was served by some small companies that sucked on the exhaust of the anti-Vista mantra that continues ot spew forward from that hole between your nose and chin. Those companies were "XP" only. They asserted that x, y and z software - anything from practice management software to ePOS SW wouldn't run on Vista at all. They leveraged that fear. The customers, long tired of how things were and excuses, called me. I started with one. Then another - then met with business leaders - armed with my new customer's opinions [following their transition to our systems, hosted services and support]. I attended athletic clubs, dinners, meetings, EOC planning meetings, shrimp festivals, craw fish boils... name it... Based upon the number of machines I have recently fixed and upgraded to Vista Business and Ultimate, that were previously disk-loaded with XP Pro OL keys, I think the reasons were different. Essentially, trash PC's, shipping from OEM's with Vista Home Premium, were disk-loaded with stolen copies of XP Pro. The customer paid and in more ways than one [but this isn't even the main point]. There was no integration - no consistency - no focus on the user, much less business processes. We looked at what the customers wanted to do and built solutions around the latest technologies. Including Windows Vista. The machines we've sold and, or fixed are running as perfectly as I have shared in my blog. The integration is tight and the people in the businesses are very happy - especially the users. I think delighted is a better word. I'll take every bit of that business [about 4 million people], and do it by offering the best supported systems, networks and hosted services available. They will run Vista - and circles around XP, OS X, and the *nix. Not just because Vista is better, but because Exchange 2007 is better than OSS/FOSS POP platforms, SQL 2005 is better than MySQL, IIS 6 is better than Apache, W2K3 is better than RH AS... you get the idea... "It's the ecosystem, stupid!" More than any one thing, I'll take that market, because we can make Vista run perfectly - and perfectly alongside all else - including that software others asserted would not run at all. |
| #14 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 10/19/2007 8:09:08 AM |
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#12: From post 3 "I work in a datacenter - we manage hundreds of computers - mostly server of course"
Maybe you should switch to prescription meds yourself... those street drugs are eroding your comprehension! |
| #15 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 10/19/2007 8:23:57 AM |
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#13: I'm glad for you that you make money from Vista, but you should not dismiss the opinions of others so readily.
#14: If someone said "I work in a hospital. We make sick people better.", would you assume he's a doctor? Why not a nurse, lab tech, janitor, cafeteria worker, accountant, network admin, administrative asst, executive, etc? But anyway, it's irrelevant. I know that what you wrote was just a lame attempt at humour. |
| #16 By 48398 (130.13.158.96) at 10/19/2007 8:34:33 AM |
| It's been my experience in this industry that just because you work in it doesn't mean you have any credibility whatsoever. |
| #17 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 10/19/2007 8:50:08 AM |
| #15: You are absolutely right! chrishedlund does sound like a janitor working at a datacenter. Whereas you simply sound like a janitor. |
| #18 By 23275 (71.12.191.230) at 10/19/2007 11:38:08 AM |
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#15, Is that the best you can come up with?
What, about anything we do, suggests we dismiss a thing? We assess as much as we practically can. I mean, Vista did not spring forth as some kind of surprise, Latch. It was no secret. Its development and testing lasted years. We developed and tested during all but one of them. It was a normal process for us - and thousands of other companies. We knew exactly what Vista could do and long before it shipped. Also, we don't make money from Vista - we make money by doing what customers need done. "READILY" what a jerk. There is nothing readily applied about anything we do. We work hard and EARN what we do. Just because Vista makes it easier and you want to deny that, does not matter one bit. What I don't like is exactly what you accuse me of - unsubstantiated BS. Latch, we proved to ourselves that Vista was not just good, but great and we use it to build great systems and networks. Get it straight man, you're the one sitting on your duff and that rumbling you hear - that is a wave of pissed off business people about to run you over - as they ignore BS and ride new technologies on their way to greater success. And yeah, the surfboard is likely to be a Vista board of some kind. |
| #19 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 10/19/2007 12:24:02 PM |
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#18: What, about anything we do, suggests we dismiss a thing?
Gee, I don't know. Perhaps it's the way you blame any criticism of Vista either on the user (everyone is too stupid or stubborn to see Vista's greatness), or on some vast media conspiracy (everyone is a paid hatchetman with an agenda.) that rumbling you hear - that is a wave of pissed off business people about to run you over Should I put the kettle on while we wait? btw why are they pissed off? Are they tired of confusing & expensive Windows licensing, or the constant barrage of viruses and malware which required more and more resources to fight against? And yeah, the surfboard is likely to be a Vista board of some kind. A monopoly in action. Don't give the people what they want, give them what you want them to get. |
| #20 By 23275 (71.12.191.230) at 10/19/2007 12:53:00 PM |
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#19, They're tired of people like you - negative, nay-saying tards that do little more than keep score according to the rules made up by the same. They are tired of excuses. They are sick of mediocrity.
People and businesses want to work with positive, can-do minded partners that worry more about getting things done and delivering excellence than they are in tossing another log on the defeatist bon-fire of hate you love to fuel. People are sick of hopelessness and sameness. They are hungry for something that at least attempts to succeed. They respect that. They don't respect negativity and they eventually reject that which comes from it. That is what is happening with Vista. |
| #21 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 10/19/2007 2:12:27 PM |
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Imports System.smugness
Imports System.hatred Public Class Latch Const MICROSOFT_IS_EVIL as Boolean = true Sub new() ‘nothing to see here End sub Public Function MakePostOnActiveWin(ByVal threadTitle as string) as string Dim comment as string If threadTitle.indexof(“Microsoft”) > 0 then comment = “Microsoft Sucks” Else comment = “Microsoft Still Sucks” End if Return comment End function End class This post was edited by rxcall on Friday, October 19, 2007 at 14:14. |
| #22 By 37047 (216.191.227.68) at 10/19/2007 2:47:22 PM |
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#21: VB? Ewww!
VB sucks! C# Rules!! :-) |
| #23 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 10/19/2007 2:49:40 PM |
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#20: Oh, OK. Thanks for the heads-up. I'll make sure I lock the door in case they show up with torches and pitchforks. Can you ask them not not come after 9PM tonight? I'll probably be watching X-Men 3 or The Omen remake.
#21: That one actually made me laugh. Still a content-free ad hominem attack that can't refute anything I said, but at least you're trying to be creative about it. |
| #24 By 23275 (172.16.10.31) at 10/19/2007 3:11:46 PM |
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#23, Again, you're missing the point [there's a shocker...], THEY WILL NOT be dropping by at all... that is the point.
Businesses and people will be going to partners and technologies that "do stuff" besides carp an point fingers. |
| #25 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 10/19/2007 3:24:21 PM |
| #24: Geez Lloyd, make up your mind. Either they're coming to run me over or not coming at all. Haven't these people heard of an RSVP? Either way I guess it's a good thing I'm not a systems integrator so I don't really have to care about whether these are people coming or not. Whereas for you, you need to always speak favourably of MS and its wares since you build solutions on them. Then there's your MS partner status to worry about. I understand you're handcuffed by circumstance and I don't hold it against you. |
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