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Time:
13:26 EST/18:26 GMT | News Source:
WinInformant |
Posted By: Robert Stein |
The second half of the alleged "Office NGO" animation is a bit more controversial than the first half, mostly because it suddenly veers off into an unlikely subscription-based scenario. Don't get me wrong, I fully expect Microsoft to ply the subscription waters with the next version of Office. But the choices offered here are almost incoherent:
- Purchase the Office NGO Professional suite, as always, at retail and then optionally decide to subscribe to Office services on a yearly basis.
- Purchase a new subscription-only version of the Office NGO Professional suite and the online Office services together. Both the Office product and its associated services would work for one year, after which time you could renew the subscription for another year, pay a set dollar amount to upgrade the subscription version of the suite to the "normal" version and eschew the online services, or just let the subscription suite sit on your hard drive and work in reduced functionality mode.
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#1 By
415 (199.8.64.184)
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4/9/2002 2:30:58 PM
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#4 - I was just going to post about that! ;-)
I bet there will be a lot of controversy over it. So prepare for more dotNet bashing, and of course, the media sh*t-storm...
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#2 By
116 (66.68.173.16)
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4/9/2002 3:40:02 PM
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Why on earth would you make people uninstall Office XP #10? Documents created in Office XP are compatible with Office 2000. You make no sense?
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#3 By
1845 (12.254.230.230)
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4/9/2002 5:56:22 PM
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Why on earth would you use Office to produce HTML? Isn't that what VisualStudio is for? I can't imagine that even using FrontPage there would be much difference between versions. If you use Word as an HTML editor, then Office XP isn't your only problem.
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#4 By
116 (66.68.173.16)
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4/9/2002 6:27:56 PM
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Well that's a better reason than the file formats being different although I still think its stupdi to have a policy in place to uninstall "newer" software. As for using office to produce html I know lots of people who do this, and its not THAT bad folks. People just throw a hissy about the extra code thrown in there so you can round trip your documents back to their original formats. And with Office XP you can strip this "extra" info. Frontpage rocks Bob especially the latest version. Personally the management with FrontPage is THE best bar none for editing a website quickly. The HTML it generates is decent and I think it is a pretty good web editor. I am not a big fan of the custom frontpage features and webbots but no biggie there. I don't use them. FrontPage 2000 vs. FrontPage XP is night and day. I would defnitely recommend going to FrontPage XP if you have the means.
Thanks,
RA
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#5 By
3339 (64.175.43.69)
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4/10/2002 1:49:50 AM
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What I find interesting about this: it should solidly prove and demonstrate to just about everyone that PT is a completely approved and managed shill for MS. Every little crap site in the world has had this pulled from their site; PT, the most visible and well-known of these windows news site (No offense Bob, Adrien, and others here at AW), is still proudly and openly displaying the complete contents with analysis.
I suppose that wouldn't be enough to convince the majority of you, but, come on, you've got to see something in that!
This post was edited by sodajerk on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 01:56.
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#6 By
2332 (129.21.145.80)
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4/10/2002 4:59:58 AM
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A couple of things...
I like the idea of paying for software by subscription. In fact, most companies like the idea too, as they will often actually save money if the deal is right. I'm not sure if this "deal" is right since I don't have the facts, but simply because you have the option to do it by subscription doesn't instantly make it evil.
I also really like the idea of the online meeting areas and document center stuff. Companies (I've worked for several that did) pay a LOT of money for this exact stuff... and it's often by subscription since the application is hosted remotely. As long as it's priced right, this could be very cool... even for small business and students!
Lastly, I think it's important to point out one big thing most people miss. Microsoft has long ago falling into the trap of success. Basically, Microsoft has done so well financially, with their profits beating all expectation, if they start functioning like a "normal" company, they're screwed. Wall Street will crush them. (And have.)
Microsoft is forced to not only do better than every other company on the planet; they have to consistently do better than the best -- Microsoft! If they don't, they are punished in a completely unfair and disproportionate reaction from the Street.
Subscription software was born both out of a cool innovative idea (or set of ideas) that really do offer a better way of doing things, and also the fact Microsoft has to always figure out ways to increase their already staggering profits.
So next time you want to blame Microsoft for all the world's ills, and complain that all they care about is money... remember that it's not just that Microsoft wants to increase their profits... they *have* to if they want to survive.
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#7 By
1845 (12.254.230.230)
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4/10/2002 9:14:05 PM
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I downloaded the Shockwave from windows pro two days ago. Though they "pulled" the link to the file, the didn't remove access to it. Also, Paul only has screen shots. He doesn't have any of the dialog from the presentation. Now, I hope you don't think that I'm so defending Paul - for many things, I think he is an uninformed fool, but then again I think quite similarly of you. There that was judgement for you!
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#8 By
1845 (12.254.230.230)
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4/10/2002 9:14:56 PM
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For the record RA, I quite prefer to use VisualStudio .NET rather than FrontPage or any other "HTML editor".
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