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Windows Vista SP1 beta lacks 'wow' | |
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| Time: 17:32 EST/22:32 GMT | News Source: News.com | Posted By: Andre Da Costa | ||
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If you've been waiting for Windows Vista SP1 to come out before you make the leap to the new operating system, don't, says Microsoft. Microsoft's Pete McKiernan, a senior product manager for Windows, told CNET News.com that one of the purposes of a service pack is to include all the patches that have been released in one package. Windows Vista SP1 will have that, but little else for the home user. | ||
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| #1 By 32313 (208.131.186.18) at 10/3/2007 5:42:02 PM |
| Its a Service Pack! What did he expect, Britney Spears to jump out of the screen saying, I will give you half of my riches if you keep my kids away from K-Fed? |
| #2 By 62611 (71.236.164.130) at 10/3/2007 6:08:21 PM |
| All of the patches that have come out are enough. Alot of these patches people don't have as they aren't on windows update and have to be gotten directly from microsoft's site. I have gotten them all and they do make a very noticable difference in performance and stability. And fix a variety of issues. |
| #3 By 12071 (203.185.215.144) at 10/3/2007 6:35:57 PM |
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#1 Not quite sure if Britney's current image would help or hinder the release... my guess is on the latter but it would be an interesting addition to the service pack.
Service Packs have, in the past, merely been a consolidation of all the patches released to date in a single package with perhaps some updated versions of the core components of the OS. This changed slightly, or significantly depending on how you look at it, with SP2 for XP. Hence I would assume that people are making the, incorrect it seems, assumption that SP1 for Vista will be more like SP2 for XP. For me, I'd just like SP1 for Vista to just work. |
| #4 By 13997 (69.227.137.112) at 10/3/2007 7:21:27 PM |
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a) It is a service pack, do people not realize what that means?
b) MS has changed the dynamics of service packs because of the availability of online updates c) Service Pack 1, actually has a lot of changes, but they are architectual, and most people won't see the changes, just the ongoing benefits of the changes. For example SP1 merges back with 2008 server, and they once again share the same kernel and core, etc. So all the ongoing 2008 server beta work is passed on to Vista users. SP1 also has updated pieces of the Windows architecture, like DirectX10.1 technologies with the new sound APIs, etc. Windows Update works well, so the majority of issues are solved through ongoing updates, this is not the 1990s where internet had limited availability. Service Packs will be 'larger' updates that help businesses or new users, as they install all the changes in one shot. Also as with SP1, they will include a mass amount of core technologies that are updated. So as you see Windows 2008 SP1 hit, it will correlate with SP2 of Vista, etc. |
| #5 By 32313 (208.131.186.18) at 10/3/2007 7:31:44 PM |
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I installed Service Pack 1 on Windows Vista Home Premium this evening - it botched the machine. No AERO Glass, can't access certain explorers such as Personalization or Control Panel. Problem Reports and Solutions reports there is an issue loading CPL modules and loading them into the main tree of something.
Its early days yet, but a sign of things to come in terms of testing and getting this one right. Took about 37 mins to install, 7 minutes longer than the total estimate of 30 mins. A few reboots and now the current state I am in. One thing for sure, I am not rushing to update to it once it hits RTM neither through off line download or WU. What people are misunderstanding about Windows and Service Packs they are just a dated method of updating and maintaining Windows systems, especially a large number of them. This is basically a legacy experience brought over from the NT family. Windows 9x innovated in this area with the advent of Windows Update, thats how Windows and Microsoft products are beginning to be updated with Windows Vista. Service Packs still serve there purpose for the individuals who are not on the Internet really. |
| #6 By 15406 (99.224.112.94) at 10/3/2007 10:10:23 PM |
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There should be no "wow" in a SP other than increased stability and lack of bugs. Period. MS has been rightly criticized in the past for rolling new functionality into SPs. Good to see them back on track for what a service release should be.
#5: It's a SP beta, no? Proceed with caution and do not install on production machines. |
| #7 By 7754 (206.169.247.2) at 10/4/2007 1:59:56 AM |
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Crazy... the "wow" for me is that I'm in agreement with Latch. :P
I guess I'm not entirely against functionality updates in service packs, although I like the model that they've used in SMS and ISA--service packs and feature packs (which should be self-explanatory). Nonetheless, even with ISA service packs, they've added little touches here and there--for example, in ISA 2004's SP3, they put in some additional functionality to the logging abilities, which is much appreciated. I wouldn't really call it a "feature update" so much. At any rate, I agree in principle with Latch. "Wow," there's more than just Rush. ;) |
| #8 By 32313 (208.131.186.18) at 10/4/2007 5:24:09 AM |
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It's a SP beta, no? Proceed with caution and do not install on production machines.
And I am aware of that Latch, I didn't start beta testing for the first time yesterday evening, ok? Its a 22 GB partition setup with Vista Home Premium, my system partition is running Vista Ultimate, just wanted to try a different SKU. But they seriously need to test this one really, really well, the last thing MS needs is people saying Service Pack 1 made Vista worse. This post was edited by awandre on Thursday, October 04, 2007 at 05:26. |
| #9 By 8556 (12.207.97.148) at 10/4/2007 12:33:04 PM |
| I'm assembling a new notebook computer tomorrow for my business use. The first thing I will do after installing Vista is to install the SP1 beta. That will be an interseting test of how much has been rolled into it and how much farther it takes Vista, from a usablility standpoint. This may not be an orgasmic "wow" experience, but it will be fun and educational. |
| #10 By 32313 (208.131.186.18) at 10/4/2007 4:54:00 PM |
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#9, Its very uneventful. See link from my blog for more info:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!16552.entry |
| #11 By 1401 (216.145.133.6) at 10/4/2007 6:44:54 PM |
| The real heading for this story reads: "Windows Vista lacks 'wow'" |
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