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Linspire Joins Microsoft Converter Efforts | |
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| Time: 00:04 EST/05:04 GMT | News Source: BetaNews | Posted By: Kenneth van Surksum | ||
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Repeating an announcement it made last month when following Novell and Xandros in signing a patent agreement with Microsoft, Linux vendor Linspire said Monday it was working with the Redmond company in building translators for converting documents between Open XML and ODF. Linspire and Freespire -- a free version of the Linux distribution that does not include certain functionality and technical support -- will now include bi-directional translators moving forward. This means OpenOffice.org users will be able to open and save in Microsoft's Open XML formats, while Office 2007 users can do the same with OpenDocument. | ||
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| #1 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 7/3/2007 12:36:07 PM |
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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070703002707260
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| #2 By 32132 (142.32.208.232) at 7/3/2007 12:52:40 PM |
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The really sad thing is that Groklaw is promoting a defective ODF standard in place of the superior OpenXML because of ideology.
Its very sad. Thats why no one takes anything that Groklaw says seriously. From Wikipedia: "The OpenDocument ISO specification does not contain a defined formula language. This means that ISO conforming files do not have to be compatible." "The OpenDocument ISO specification does not allow for tables in presentations." "Different applications using ODF as a standard document format have different methods of providing macro/scripting capabilities. There is no macro language specified in ODF." "The ODF standard is insufficiently detailed, requiring excessive application specific namespace extensions to record document features. These application specific namespace extensions are not necessarily interoperable between ODF compliant applications." "Java applets are described as native objects in the OpenDocument specification (§9.3.4). This means any full implementations will require a java virtual machine present from within the application." "The Sun OpenDocument Patent Statement [25] applies to a future version of ODF only if Sun participates in development of that version. If Sun does not participate, then the assurance not seek to enforce any of its enforceable U.S. or foreign patents against any implementation will not apply." ODF is defective. And owned by Sun. |
| #3 By 32132 (142.32.208.232) at 7/3/2007 1:03:33 PM |
| All you have to do is read the comments on Groklaw and realize no sane IT Manager would allow open source fanatics into your company. |
| #4 By 32132 (142.32.208.232) at 7/3/2007 1:15:46 PM |
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This is my favorite:
I've just written my own open standard. - Since it has gone from 0 to 1 user in the past 10 minutes, it has "growing" support. - Since it is saved on a hard drive so that it "operates with a relevant Entreprise Standard". - Since you just need to pay me $1 gazillion to use it, it "can be adopted without causing negative business impact". The comment is supposed to mock Microsofts OpenXML as a standard. Instead, because it ignores the fact that Office has 99% of the market and ODF less than .1%, they are making a great point that ODF is irrelevant. |
| #5 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 7/3/2007 1:51:26 PM |
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http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2154193,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03129TX1K0000616
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| #6 By 32132 (142.32.208.232) at 7/3/2007 2:08:08 PM |
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#5 "Microsoft, however, isn't really trying to win the open-standard wars in document formats between its own Open XML and the truly open ODF (Open Document Format). "
What wonderful Newspeak. If Sun owns ODF, it is "truly open". If Microsoft "owns" OpenXML, it isn't open at all. "Microsoft is winning, as we can see from Massachusetts' decision to support Microsoft's Office Open XML format in addition to ODF. " Yes. Microsoft is winning because Microsoft Office is a mature, full featured product. ODF implimentations are defective in many ways. Massachussetts had serious problems with the way ODF deals with people who have disabilities. "For users with major visual impairments (frequently termed "low vision") OpenOffice.org is today not well supported by screen magnification in Microsoft Windows." "For users who are blind, OpenOffice.org today is not well supported by screen readers in Microsoft Windows." A Massachusetts state senator blasted the state's high-profile decision to adopt OpenDocument as a digital document standard, calling it unlawful and insensitive to the needs of people with disabilities. http://news.com.com/Report+blasts+Mass.+OpenDocument+policy/2100-1013_3-6089792.html This post was edited by NotParker on Tuesday, July 03, 2007 at 14:10. |
| #7 By 32132 (142.32.208.232) at 7/3/2007 2:13:45 PM |
| Latch, why do you and SJVN want to disenfranchise vision impaired people? Is your irrational hatred of Microsoft that strong? |
| #8 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 7/5/2007 3:42:34 PM |
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Looks like Sun has beaten MS to the punch and has come out with a plugin that fully supports ODF as a default file format. I thought MS said this was so hard that they could only do ODF read (not ODF write) and that it would take maybe years to do it properly. And yet here it is from Sun. It makes MS look either incompetent, or a foot-dragger and fraud with their lip-service to ODF support.
http://www.betanews.com/article/Sun_Releases_Own_ODF_Plugin_for_Office/1183661352 |
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