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  Fast System Startup for PCs Running Windows XP
Time: 00:35 EST/05:35 GMT | News Source: Microsoft | Posted By: Robert Stein

This download white paper describes issues and solutions for achieving fast system start up on PC systems running the Microsoft® Windows® XP operating system. Customer research has shown that one of the most frequently requested features that users want from their PCs is fast system startup, whether from cold boot or when resuming from standby or hibernation. The Windows development team at Microsoft has taken bold steps in making quickly available PCs a reality with the release of the Windows XP operating system.

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#1 By 2332 (129.21.145.80) at 3/29/2002 5:44:00 AM
Well, I built my own PC... and it boots in 14 seconds from power-on to login for XP.

Not too shabby.

#2 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 3/29/2002 1:32:37 PM
I have to ask. Why on earth would I buy a Mac today when I was unwilling to buy one 15 years ago, and every year in between then and now? Doesn't make sense.

I'm with RMD... 14 seconds from power on to login on my system at home. I never shut any computers off because I use them to heat my home.


#3 By 2332 (129.21.145.80) at 3/29/2002 4:17:18 PM
#12 - Uh huh... ya... no debating it... right.

I used Macs for 5 years buddy. I know the both the capabilities and pitfalls of Macs in general, as well as OS X. XP and OS X are both excellent operating systems, and one could debate quite a bit about which is better. In fact, it's been done: http://www.cnet.com/software/0-429669-8-7618644-1.html

The point is, you don't care about the truth. Mac zealots are worse than both Windows zealots and Linux zealots, as they often have little grasp of the technical details, and rely 100% on Apple for all their propaganda.

By the way, you could build an x86 machine with the same stats as your entry level Mac for about $350. You could build the fastest PC money can buy (Athlon XP 2200+, Asus A7V333, 60GB IBM HD, 512MB PC2700 DDR, SoundBlaster Audigy sound card, Geforce 4 128MB, cool aluminum Lian-Li case) for about $1500. Including shipping and tax.

That machine will completely crush and Mac (and basically any other machine) you put up against it (especially the new ones, which have some major "issues"... hehe). Don't believe me? Here is an independent benchmark:

http://www.barefeats.com/pentium4.html

That's not even looking at the Athlon XP's, which are a *lot* faster. And it's certainly not looking at the machine I detailed above... which would crush anything on that list.

The fastest Mac money can buy costs about $4000. That's with NO MONITOR! Granted, it comes with 1.5GB of ram and 160GB of HD space (both of which are meant to get stupid people to spend way too much money, as that much HD space is stupid and that much ram is overkill for almost every application), but that would add only about $400 to the price of the machine I listed above.

So, $1900 for an x86 machine which is far faster and has the same amenities as the $4000 G4. Ya, great deal.

But wait, what am I saying... there is no debate! Windows 95 = Mac 85, right? Right... sigh.

#4 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 3/29/2002 4:27:43 PM
#12 - I've used OSX, and quite frankly I don't like it. I'm sorry, yes it is a lot better than straight X11 on top of Unix, but it's considerably unintuitive. Apple seems to have decided that they don't need to make a UI that works as long as it has fancy graphical effects.

Look, I don't care about the Mac. I'm not going to buy a Mac. I'm not going to recommend a Mac, and I have yet to encounter serious use of Macs in business so why would I waste my time learning about them. The Macintosh is irrelevant. I think it's great that you like it, but leave me alone!

P.S. My 1.2Ghz Pentium III at home is a GREAT entry level computer and cost roughly the same price as your iMac including the 15" LCD flat panel monitor...

#5 By 2332 (129.21.145.80) at 3/30/2002 4:48:37 AM
#16 -

You're correct, I wasn't taking into account the software. However, I can both build and buy an entry level PC for far less than $800.

Windows XP Home = $180
Microsoft Works = $40

So that brings our custom entry level PC to $570.

Here are a few pre-built ones too:

Dell, $599, comes with XP and MS Works... plus goodies.
http://www.dell.com/us/en/dhs/products/model_dimen_1_dimen_150d.htm

Gateway, $599, comes with XP, Works, Encarta, etc.
http://www.gateway.com/home/prod/hm_300le_ProdDetail.shtml

Compaw, $749, comes with XP, and is a lot more ram than the other three:
http://athome.compaq.com/default.asp?ProductLineId=441&page=families

So, there are three common computers, all less than $800, all with software. All three of these machines would certainly out perform your entry level Mac, and come with more software.

Alas, I can't get the software at the price these companies can. So it's likely a better value to buy from them, even with the slightly higher price tag.

Considering, however, than on the beefy config I listed I'm saving $2100 off your G4 beast, I will have plenty of money for all the software I want.

As you can see, there is plenty of room for debate.

This post was edited by RMD on Saturday, March 30, 2002 at 04:54.

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