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  Microsoft Sweeps Hotmail Accounts
Time: 12:01 EST/17:01 GMT | News Source: MSNBC | Posted By: Julien Jay

Hotmail subscribers have a new problem to contend with: an e-mail janitor. In Microsoft’s popular free e-mail service, messages are being swept out and bounced back to senders as the site urges members to upgrade to a premium version that costs $19.95 a year, according to subscribers. One Hotmail user, Arianna, said she signed on to her e-mail account last week to find the system had emptied out her in-box—including important messages about her upcoming wedding — but left her junk-mail folder full. “It definitely felt like strong-arming, like ‘See what can happen if you don’t pay us,’” said Arianna, a community college professor who lives in San Francisco.

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#1 By 20 (24.243.32.227) at 3/24/2002 1:21:22 PM
You mean people actually receive actual email in their hotmail boxes? I thought the whole point of Hotmail was to see how many spam messages you can receive a day.

#2 By 1913 (68.14.48.57) at 3/24/2002 2:18:30 PM
Hey #6. I use Hotmail so that I can avoid spam emails when I sign up for something over the Internet ...and I think that is a serious use of Hotmail. People uses Hotmail so that they can retrieve their emails from remote location.

So tell us whey do you consider people using Hotmail has serious mental problems. That goes to you to #7 ...and you called yourself ComputerExpert. Apparently you have not been out in the real world.

This problem also extend in CORPORATE environment. You can lock your account when you hit your MB quota that is specified to your account. Until you clean up your account or do something about it, you can't receive or send email.

The bottom line is ...YOU HAVE TO MANAGE YOUR EMAIL ACCOUNT ...even if you have a free email account.

This post was edited by rommels on Sunday, March 24, 2002 at 14:28.

#3 By 135 (208.50.201.48) at 3/24/2002 2:31:37 PM
I just checked my hotmail account... 2 valid emails, 350 pieces of Spam.

That's just from the last week.

#4 By 2332 (129.21.145.80) at 3/24/2002 2:36:56 PM
Listen...

Hotmail is one of the most popular e-mail services on the planet. As a result it is target-number-one for spammers.

They use various e-mail generation tools to send mail to addresses, even if you've never been stupid enough to use your e-mail in a post on a message board or newsgroup.

I have two hotmail accounts. One is a fairly common and simple e-mail address that both attracts this generated-spam, and spam from me using it to post on message boards and newsgroups.

I cut the spam I receive in that mailbox by about 70% by using the spam filter... so I only get about 10 a day now. :-)

I have another e-mail address which would be nearly impossible to generate automatically (not simple, long, etc.). I get absolutely no spam at all in that account. Ever.

If Microsoft was trying to use spam to "force" users into their premium services, wouldn't I be getting that same spam too?

In addition, that would be a huge violation of Hotmail's privacy policy, which I doubt Microsoft would be stupid enough to do.

There are many ways to get spammed on the net, and people who blindly accuse Microsoft of something nefarious simply don't understand what those ways are. It's unfounded speculation.

By the way... doesn't anybody else find it insane to complain about something you're getting *for FREE*? There are plenty of pay-email services out there that probably manage spam better than Hotmail. Don't like it, don't use it.

#5 By 1913 (68.14.48.57) at 3/24/2002 2:44:04 PM
RMD (13) & JaggedFlame (14) ...I AGREE.

#6 By 1845 (12.254.230.230) at 3/24/2002 3:17:57 PM
The spam filters for hotmail work quite well for me. I average 1 spam per hour and they all go to my bulk mail folder. Sometimes it even blocks newsletters. About a month ago, I got that spam the guy in the article talked about - I think I received 200 of them in an hour. I deleted them and my account continues to work quite well.

#2 I have no idea what problems you are referring to with Explorer and Outlook. I use both almost exclusively and never have problems. I've use Outlook 2002 since it was released to MSDN subscribers last year and use it to check about 8 email accounts including a hotmail account. No lost mail here.

Exactly what is this "convoluted, confusing mess" you are talking about?

#7 By 3653 (68.53.80.99) at 3/24/2002 4:26:48 PM
The bottom line is IT IS FREE. If you don't find using hotmail an enjoyable and useful experience... GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. I'm always amazed at the "music is free" generation and how they expect everything to work perfectly even when they aren't paying a dime for it. Grow up children!

#8 By 135 (208.50.201.48) at 3/24/2002 4:52:28 PM
If you look on the bright side... If Microsoft had not purchased Hotmail.com, it would most likely now be defunct.

By the way... In other news geocities.com is now a fee based service, as is Blue Mountain and a whole slew of other dot.bombs ideas.


#9 By 61 (65.32.169.133) at 3/24/2002 4:53:10 PM
So let me get this straight, she opened her in-box to find it empty and because of this Microsoft must be strong-arming people into subscribing to the premium package?

Am I missing something here, or is this person just incredibly stupid and weak minded?

#10 By 1845 (12.254.230.230) at 3/24/2002 7:00:18 PM
Hey I like "stick that in your pipe and smoke it". I think it is more for the comedic value though.

#11 By 1845 (12.254.230.230) at 3/24/2002 8:22:52 PM
Have you ever used AT&T Broadband? Don't make me laugh by saying they have 5 9's uptime. I lose connectivity with them nearly every day.

#12 By 1913 (68.14.48.57) at 3/24/2002 9:24:16 PM
#34 ...As long that you're not shelling any money to use Hotmail, it is FREE.

If you're managing your Hotmail account properly, you won't have to pay anything ...then it is FREE.

Companies out there that advertise are the ones that's paying for it ...I agree, but thanks to them, I have a FREE Hotmail account.

So what if I'm driving ad-revenues to MS ...as long that I'm getting my account for FREE, that is all that matters.



This post was edited by rommels on Sunday, March 24, 2002 at 21:26.

#13 By 37 (216.114.40.155) at 3/25/2002 4:04:23 PM
Ok...lemme check here....

<<<looking in check register for check made out to: Microsoft/MSN Hotmail Services>>>>

After further research, my account shows that I have not spent a single penny on my Hotmail email accounts.

Even further research shows that I have not clicked on an ad on the Hotmail page.

$0 (cash) + 0 (# of ads clicked on) = Free in my book.

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