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  Microsoft Accuses IBM of Limiting Choice for Interop, Standards
Time: 16:36 EST/21:36 GMT | News Source: eWeek | Posted By: Andre Da Costa

Microsoft has released an open letter that accuses IBM of driving the effort to force the OpenDocument Format on users through public procurement mandates, which the Redmond, Wash., software maker views as an attempt to restrict choice and limit adoption of its Office Open XML format.

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#1 By 28801 (68.81.50.122) at 2/14/2007 7:23:31 PM
It's about time MS did something about IBM's underhanded tactics. I work at a Fortune 500 company that outsourced much of IT to IBM many years ago. In the subsequent years IBM has jammed their technology down my company's throat - Lotus Notes, SameTime, WebSphere. They all suck!

I now work in the Business Intelligence department in my company. We wanted to implement a portal for out BI application and briefly considered WebSphere. We decided to go with an Open Source alternative – DotNetNuke. It gives us the freedom and flexibility to do what we want when we want without having to deal with IBM. It wasn’t easy, but we were finally able to push it through the red tape.

I also set up a Windows SharePoint Site for my group. Many of my coworkers were resistant at first, but the more they used it the more they love it. I haven’t even implemented some of the more interesting features like InfoPath forms.

My point is that IBM is the Borg of the technical world. Once they get in, you can’t get rid of them and they foist their technology on you restricting choice to the point where you don’t know you have choices.

Bravo Microsoft. I hope this is just the opening salvo.

#2 By 8556 (12.210.39.82) at 2/14/2007 9:20:00 PM
Microsoft may be right about the issue. But, this comes across as the pot calling the kettle black. IBM may still be pissed about MS keeping the rights to DOS leading to wealth beyond belief, and is trying to jab MS with a virtual stick. Both companies are huge, powerful, driven and working to make their products and formats well entrenched. Let the sumo match begin. Where's the popcorn?

#3 By 12071 (124.168.205.173) at 2/15/2007 7:35:12 AM
Microsoft accusing someone ELSE of limiting choice?!? What a bunch of hypocrites! Can't say I'm surprised, this is MS after all, but wow, of all the people to complain about limiting user's choice! How much did it take for them to even add something as poorly made as their "Default Programs" setup? How exactly is IBM limiting user's choice given that ODF is a completely open standard?

#4 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 2/15/2007 9:23:07 AM
#3: By preventing a competing "Open Standard" from going to ISO.

My problem is that IBM skates along unnoticed and they do many of the same tactics if not worse.

#5 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 2/15/2007 9:36:16 AM
#4: IBM isn't preventing anything. They're casting a dissenting vote. MS is just using this for political purposes. And it's not just IBM. A lot of countries seem to have a problem with MS XML. I didn't think I would see the day when MS had the absolute gall to accuse someone else of thwarting innovation, competition and interoperability. I believe Freud called this 'projection'.

#6 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 2/15/2007 10:20:07 AM
#5: "On December 7th, Ecma approved the adoption of Open XML as an international open standard. The vote was nearly unanimous; of the 21 members, IBM’s was the sole dissenting vote."

You bellyache and bellyache about MS, yet when they try to go to the standards body with an alternative "Open" format you're still not happy.

What will make you happy - a dog, sex, drugs?

Maybe you should try sex with a dog.

#7 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 2/15/2007 11:15:38 AM
#6: ECMA is a body that rubber-stamps anything MS does, which is why MS goes there first. Notice they didn't go the ISO route first, and that's the important route. By sheer coincidence, the ISO is where MS is currenty having all its problems, with many countries lodging objections & contradictions.

Sex with a dog? Sad.

#8 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 2/15/2007 2:47:25 PM
#7: ECMA is an MS puppet because you say it is? Then why are there 20 other members beside MS (including IBM)?


This post was edited by rxcall on Thursday, February 15, 2007 at 15:02.

#9 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 2/15/2007 3:47:54 PM
#8: Go to Google, search for "ECMA Microsoft rubber stamp" and start reading.

#10 By 28801 (68.81.50.122) at 2/15/2007 9:39:59 PM
Amazing... a lot of Open Source advocates like yourself criticizing Microsoft.
Sam Hiser - Occupation: Linux Consultant
Kurt Cagle - a participant in OASIS
And this column http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=2257 is all speculation.

#11 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 2/16/2007 9:12:43 AM
http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/blogs/openxml_not_right

#12 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 2/16/2007 10:57:41 AM
Once again, this is an opinion piece from a linux developer.
"He is currently running an IT consultancy specialising in free software solutions"
You continue to make this an ODF vs Open XML debate.
My question to you is why do you care whether ISO approves Open XML or not? It will provide more choices and I know you are all about that.


This post was edited by rxcall on Friday, February 16, 2007 at 11:08.

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