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| #1 By 116 (66.193.251.146) at 1/24/2007 10:05:38 AM |
| Thats actually pretty cheap... Good job MS! |
| #2 By 6859 (206.156.242.36) at 1/24/2007 10:41:58 AM |
| If Ultimate was just a smidge cheaper, I'd go for it. |
| #3 By 25030 (70.88.150.70) at 1/24/2007 10:42:22 AM |
| Yeah, the Business version seems to be the bargain of the bunch at $149. Better than I expected overall except for Home Basic, which I had already assumed would come in at the magic $99 figure. |
| #4 By 61 (72.64.142.151) at 1/24/2007 10:44:33 AM |
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Not much of a bargain if you want MCE.
And Home Premium likewise if you want Remote Desktop and Tablet stuff. |
| #5 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 1/24/2007 12:22:15 PM |
| #4: Actually, the MCE seems to be a bargain. I think that I paid $130 (plus hardware) for XP MCE through NewEgg. |
| #6 By 116 (66.193.251.146) at 1/24/2007 2:46:55 PM |
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Yeah I paid upwards of $150 for MCE. Remote Desktop is kind of a bummer being left out of ultimate but if you are a tablet user you should expect to pay more anyways.
Peace, Ben |
| #7 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 1/24/2007 3:23:09 PM |
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#6, Windows Vista Ultimate Edition has every feature availble in any/all other versions of Vista - including the RDP, or Remote Desktop Protocol server host.
Nearly all versions have the tablet PC functions baked in - for example, the Snipping Tool, which is pretty awesome - go to the search window and type "snip" les the quotes, of course, and click on, the snipping tool icon. Free Hand, Region/Area and Window snipping options are available as well as some simple editing tools. TechSmith's SnagIt it is not, but it is pretty handy for those that don't have access to SnagIt http://www.techsmith.com/snagit on all the machines they use. This post was edited by lketchum on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 at 15:27. |
| #8 By 3 (62.253.128.14) at 1/24/2007 4:47:34 PM |
| OEM versions have been released here in the UK for about a week now, the only downside is that you don't get both 32-bit and 64-bit DVD's, just one or the other. |
| #9 By 2960 (24.254.95.224) at 1/25/2007 8:11:37 AM |
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Byron,
That's probably because the OEM versions do not have the same "move to another machine" allowance as the full versions do. Once installed on a machine, it's glued to that machine forever. Changing from 32-bit to 64-bit would require a processor and MB change, which MS considers a 'new' machine, and thus a new license would be required. Personally, the only time I think an OEM purchase makes sense is when you are building a brand-new machine, with the latest technology, that you expect to keep for 3-5 years minimum. TL |
| #10 By 47914 (24.225.231.107) at 1/25/2007 10:28:23 AM |
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OEM versions do not have the same "move to another machine" allowance as the full versions do
Didn't OEM XP have "x" number of hardware changes in a month or something?? So, NONE of the Vista OEM versions have this allowance. even Ultimate? |
| #11 By 2960 (24.254.95.224) at 1/25/2007 1:59:55 PM |
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Sure. But a change from X32 to X64 is most definitely considered a full computer change. It would be hard to argue against that one.
TL |
| #12 By 6859 (206.156.242.36) at 1/25/2007 2:06:24 PM |
| Also keep in mind (although this is a wee bit off topic) that the "upgrade" editions of Vista no longer support a clean full install unless you're using the 64-bit version. |
| #13 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 1/25/2007 2:13:21 PM |
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#11: Why would x86 to x64 be a full computer change? Any x64-capable processor can run in either mode. I've heard that OEM is essentially tied to the motherboard--a proc upgrade is not considered a computer change. It's a weighted scale of different components, but the most important is the mobo. It's too bad if OEM doesn't allow for either install. :( In reality, it's probably not that important, though--I'll just have to be more careful to make sure I have x64 drivers if I plan to go over 4 GB RAM.
#12: link? I never heard that; in fact, I heard the opposite.... |
| #14 By 32132 (64.180.219.241) at 1/25/2007 2:32:48 PM |
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#12 http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windows-Vista-Ultimate-UPGRADE/dp/B000HCTYTO
"Update Eligibility You can upgrade from your current edition of Microsoft Windows XP or Windows 2000 (including Windows XP Professional, Windows XP Home, Windows XP Media Center, Windows XP Tablet PC, Windows XP Professional x64, Windows 2000) to a corresponding or better edition of Windows Vista by purchasing and installing this upgrade copy of Windows Vista. Depending on which edition of Windows you are running and the edition of Windows Vista you would like to install, you have two options for the installation process: You can upgrade in-place, which means you can install Windows Vista and retain your applications, files, and settings as they were in your previous edition of Windows or you can do a clean install. If you are currently using Windows 2000 Professional or Windows XP Professional x64, you are eligible for an upgrade copy to a corresponding or better edition of Windows Vista, but a clean install is required. For versions of Windows earlier than Windows 2000, upgrade copies are not available. These earlier versions of Windows require you to install a full copy of Windows Vista." You HAVE to do a clean install for an x64 or Win2K upggrade. 32bit XP upgrades give you the option. This post was edited by NotParker on Thursday, January 25, 2007 at 14:34. |
| #15 By 6859 (206.156.242.36) at 1/25/2007 4:09:59 PM |
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But according to people in microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup (specifically, Carey Frisch and Jeff Gaines) a user can boot from the x86 upgrade media to carry out repairs but not an install (the 64-bit version strangely can perform an install.) For the x86 upgrade version, you have to have Win2K or XP already installed and run the upgrade from within Windows. Even Paul Thurrott is waiting to hear back from MS on this very issue. How do I know this? I asked him.
Here's a link that might prove helpful: http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx?query=jeff+gaines&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup&cat=en_us_fdf138d6-427a-48d6-84dc-a91a6c9fbb45&lang=en&cr=us&pt=&catlist=&dglist=&ptlist=&exp=&sloc=en-us (sorry that's a big link, but it's not my fault.) Here's some relevent questions and answers that are provided: >1. Does a Vista Upgrade require Windows 2000 or XP to be installed prior to >upgrading? Yes, and in the case of XP it must also be activated. >2. If you were reformatting your upgraded Vista computer and wanted vista >back on it, would you have to reinstall 2000/XP first? Yes, if it's an upgrade version of Vista. >3. Can you do a fresh install of the Vista Upgrade to a blank HD and then >enter your 2000/XP key and/or enter the CD during the installation process? No. >4. Does the Vista Upgrade require just the 2000/XP key or the key and the >CD? No, it must be installed/activated And... The DVD for the upgrade version of Windows Vista is non-bootable for installation purposes. You must have either a "genuine" Windows XP or Windows 2000 operating system installed and use the upgrade disc while at the desktop to begin installation. |
| #16 By 32132 (64.180.219.241) at 1/25/2007 4:57:18 PM |
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"According to Darrel Gorter, the retail dvd's are all bootable. In fact, the
user must boot with the x64 dvd to use an upgrade edition product key when installing Vista x64 on a system running a 32bit edition of Windows. Since there is no difference between the dvd's in the retail upgrade and full edition boxes all retail dvd's are by definition bootable." "I think the OP failed to tell us that he is using a volume license copy, which is not bootable." According to the discussion, VLK upgrade versions are not bootable. Retail are. |
| #17 By 47914 (24.225.231.107) at 1/26/2007 7:17:44 AM |
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Wow, I thought my question was ignorant, but I'm still confused....I build PC's 0ccasionally for friends and relatives, and I'm still not sure what to tell them. If I understand:
1. I can buy the OEM version of Vista for them for a new build(OEM version is cheaper for them). 2. Upgrades to hardware on their new Vista machine are OK if less than "x" per month (except processor upgrade???). I guess because a processor is considered a "new" pc???? 3. But...they can't upgrade to a newer version of windows at a later date???? (Using a future NEW Windows UPGRADE version or whatever). I'm thinking this can't be true. This post was edited by mirt on Friday, January 26, 2007 at 07:25. |
| #18 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 1/26/2007 3:13:35 PM |
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#17:
1: Yes. 2. According to what I've read (I looked a couple minutes for it, but couldn't find it... sorry!), processor upgrades are fine. The items that are given the most weight are new hard drives (not extras or externals, obviously) and motherboards. I'm not sure how the calculation is made (especially over time), but a processor upgrade shouldn't matter. 3. I haven't heard anything about OEM not qualifying for an upgrade. The only restriction for OEM of which I'm aware is that you cannot transfer the license to another computer. |
| #19 By 135 (75.73.90.215) at 1/28/2007 10:21:17 AM |
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Microsoft is going to lose a lot of customers, if I can't upgrade my computer.
This is getting nonsensical. Things should be made easier, not harder. |
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