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  Vista kernel fix 'worse than useless'
Time: 01:35 EST/06:35 GMT | News Source: The Register | Posted By: Kenneth van Surksum

Microsoft has modified Windows Vista to prevent a high-profile exploit demonstrated at security conferences this summer but the fix creates as many problems as it solves, according to the security researcher who identified the original problem.

The bug, demonstrated by Joanna Rutkowska of security firm Coseinc, created a possible mechanism for hackers to bypass security protection built into 64-bit versions of Vista in order to inject potentially hostile code into the kernel of prototype versions of Windows. This so-called "pagefile attack" defeated a feature called Vista kernel protection.

Windows Vista Release Candidate 2 frustrates this attack by blocking write-access to raw disk sectors for user mode applications, even if they are executed with elevated administrative rights. Rutkowska writes that Microsoft's fix is fraught with difficulties because it prevents legitimate applications, such as disk editors and recovery tools, from functioning without their own signed kernel-level driver. Hackers might be able to hijack such legitimate drivers so all Microsoft has done has created extra work for developers in displacing - but not resolving - the problem.

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#1 By 21203 (67.164.108.240) at 10/25/2006 2:11:55 AM
First off: It's TheRegister.

Second off: Consumers want this. I wish people would just get off their high horses too. Unless signed drivers cost in the thousands to acquire, this is a non issue. With my limited investigations, I found out it costs about 2-300 dollars to get a signed driver. "Oh, the horror."

Now you can take that both ways. Hackers can also spend 2-300 bucks to get a signed driver, but then they will have a paper trail for the abuse. And that's the whole point.

I say again, consumers want this, and ignorant people make it sound like this is a massive barrier to entry, when in reality it's just a minor speed bump.

#2 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 10/25/2006 2:45:34 AM
MRAM is right, here... there is a growing list of not only criminal elements, but companies, that do not want a signed driver model. It isn't the tiny amount of money involved, either - they appear to want Windows to remain available for much wider exploitation attempts.

The nasty secret here is that they want it left open - and in that should be a warning... what are they doing to software that is left open to such low level attacks... well, I can tell you, they will do the same as they have been doing to the *nix for years - laughing at the people that claim non-Microsoft OS'es are so secure. They aren't - never have been and never will be.
"All the coomba-ya chanting about thousands of programmers can work on it to improve and secure it... crap is nonsense...and a lie." Security is best served by secrecy - this helps compartmentalize it and isolate it to a monitorable group to those that have access. While not perfect [and it never will be], it is one very good method to speed the determination of who did what - beginning with who could do what. That deters abuse and it works. Microsoft will not cave to demands like this.

#3 By 53078 (72.252.15.246) at 10/25/2006 11:45:19 AM
I hate stupid articles!

Wow it requires games that want to direct edit the disc to be driver certified wow, how horrible control over whos fu*king with our hardware what a bad bad thing *sarcasm* i mean give me a frigging break!

#4 By 1474 (138.162.5.11) at 10/25/2006 12:09:53 PM
LOCK IT DOWN, I want it locked down, Norton and McAfee good bye, your software wasn't that good. LOCK IT DOWN. Looks like Windows is taking some roots from Linux. Load Ubuntu and take a look. LOCK IT DOWN

#5 By 37047 (216.191.227.68) at 10/25/2006 2:06:08 PM
For a signed driver, you pay Verisign for a driver signing certificate, and simply use that to sign all your drivers and other code. It is not like you have to pay for each time it is used, or each driver it is used on. At the company I work for, we sign just about everything we can sign, including our normal executables. Probably a bit of overkill, but it does not cost us any extra.

So, if a company is creating kernel-level drivers, they should be getting the digital certificate and signing their drivers. Period. Unless it is Joe Blow working alone in his basement, and he has absolutely no budget, and his parents are paying for his computer and electricity, then there is no excuse for not having a signed driver.

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