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  Firefox 2 is no dud
Time: 23:59 EST/04:59 GMT | News Source: ZDNet | Posted By: Chris Hedlund

Arguably the world's most popular open source project ever, Mozilla Firefox just got even better today with its 2.0 production release. Previously I've written articles that compared Firefox and IE, and listed a few tips for tweaking Firefox, so I was tempted to pass on a new Firefox article. That is, until I read an article today from Paul Thurrott who calls Firefox 2 "a dud" and "unimpressive".

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#1 By 32132 (64.180.219.241) at 10/25/2006 3:07:43 AM
I'll have to go with Thurrott on this one:

"Firefox 2.0 is free, but it's a woefully minor improvement over Firefox 1.5 that suffers from various incompatibility problems, especially with themes and other add-ons. I wouldn't recommend this new version, to be honest. I'll be sticking with Firefox 1.5 at least for now. I recommend you do the same, or switch to the surprisingly solid IE 7.0"

#2 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 10/25/2006 4:15:53 AM
#1, Ditto that - Paul has it right, here. It's a yawner and just feels primitive to me.

#3 By 1401 (69.27.196.125) at 10/25/2006 8:48:30 AM
This is unbelievable - it's like I'm living in the bizaro world. MS comes out with the biggest POS known to browsers and people love it. Firefox changes the THEME and people are crying foul.

#4 By 3746 (71.19.41.232) at 10/25/2006 9:22:59 AM
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Why should a change in theme or other minor improvements warrant a change to version 2.0? Sounds like the team just wanted to get to a nice round number to look like they had something fresh and new. I have 2.0 loaded and played around with it and am not blown away by anything. Should have been 1.6 not 2.0.

I have to agree though IE7 the more i use it the more i like it. Also the fact that you think IE7 is a POS doesn't mean that it is. Most of the reviews I have seen say it is a solid browser and my use of it makes me feel the same. I don't know if i am particulary happy that you can't reconfugure the UI to suit me but the browser itself is quick, stable and will work for the mjority of people's needs.

#5 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 10/25/2006 10:47:33 AM
I have to agree. IE7 is growing on me. I am really begin to like it.

#6 By 1401 (69.27.196.125) at 10/25/2006 11:01:17 AM
Oh be quite - you liked IE7 before it even existed. You like IE8 already...

#7 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 10/25/2006 11:02:59 AM
quite? did you mean quiet?

I am actually running the dogfood build of IE 9.0. It's the best browser ever, and they are adding a cool new innovative feature, inline search, but that is NDA.

#8 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 10/25/2006 12:17:24 PM
Chris, the foul part is that Mozilla added a couple of items that amount to existing add-ons, or "extensions" glued to the same old 1.8 engine they were using and FF users and tech media pundits are gushing all over themselves.

In the meantime, Microsoft releases IE 7, Defender, UPnrP for XP SP2, MCE 2005 Rollup for Oct, new network diagnostics tools, and a truckload more - where IE 7, if one does look past the home button placement, is pretty amazing technically. IE 7's RSS engine alone, is an excellent example of true innovation, and the same users and pundits dump all over it.

In this case, I really think it was the pundits and FF users who have not looked even once at IE 7 [not really], and long ago decided to throw a block-party for Firefox 2.0.

I also meant it when I said muscle memory obviates the home button location in a week or so and causes one to understand the entire row Microsoft's designers were trying to give back to users - so on that one, I have to stand/sit/type, "corrected" and tip a hat to their work!

#9 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 10/25/2006 2:36:12 PM
So far, in my experience, IE 7 has been substantially faster than FF 2.0.

#10 By 3 (62.253.128.15) at 10/25/2006 3:08:40 PM
Don't notice a speed difference with IE7 or FF 2 personally. Like both browsers though and I use both, Firefox does get more use out of it though, just found it was so much better for such a long time why not stick with it.

#11 By 20505 (216.102.144.11) at 10/25/2006 6:35:02 PM
I have to offer a dissenting opinion here. IE is somehow in version 7 and just catching up with the Fox for features and you guys are whining about a version 2 numbering scheme? Give me a break.

As for me I find the Fox to be a much better browser (including version 2) which is as fast as IE, and arguably renders web pages as well as IE. It is customizable with a plethora of free extensions and skins. It also does one thing for the oldog in me which MS can't get right; when I increase type fonts on web pages for these old presbyopic eyes of mine I don't have to endlessly scroll back and forth on a 19" screen with bottom scrollbar just to read the drivel that I find myself perusing on the Web.

I think there was a reason MS ask the Fox people to come to the Redmond campus. They know a good piece of software when they see it.

#12 By 8556 (12.207.97.148) at 10/26/2006 10:11:28 AM
Opera 9.02 is faster than IE7 on a Core or Core 2 Duo machine.

IE7 is decent but it pissed me off last night when it, locked up twice when re-registering on Intel's partner site. I was able to use Netcaptor on IE6 with no issues on the same site.

#13 By 37 (68.190.114.234) at 10/29/2006 8:39:26 AM
That would be in your experience Bob. My experience is the opposite with Opera 9.02 and IE7, with IE7 being faster.

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