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  Vista deployment twice as fast as XP
Time: 01:10 EST/06:10 GMT | News Source: Ars Technica | Posted By: Kenneth van Surksum

Microsoft has announced that they expect businesses to deploy Vista quickly—twice as fast as the XP launch, in fact. By Vista's first birthday, proud papa Microsoft hopes that it will have doubled the deployments of XP in the same time period.

Microsoft chalks this up to massive beta testing and better deployment tools like the "User State Migration Tool" and the "Application Compatibility Toolkit." The deployment features are meant to make the product enterprise-friendly, and the multiple rounds of testing should give businesses the confidence they need to deploy Vista within months, or even at launch. So goes the theory. What's the reality?

While there's a lot to like in Vista, it's difficult to see what compelling features businesses won't be able to live without for another year or two. Having a "Windows Preinstallation Environment" will be nice, but IT departments don't roll out OS upgrades simply because they're not as difficult as they used to be.

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#1 By 8556 (12.217.111.92) at 10/10/2006 9:41:30 AM
Since this is a retread I again state that MS has twice as many desks as they did in 2001. Hence, double the rapid implementation in business.

#2 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 10/10/2006 1:47:45 PM
Ok?

#3 By 8556 (12.217.111.92) at 10/10/2006 4:11:16 PM
For those who cannot read my mind from afar, MS is pretty much the only company to move to Vista quickly. With twice the desks they can state that the move to Vista is twice as fast as the move to XP was. Any sane business will wait for SP1 before moving to Vista on exisiting machines.

This post was edited by bobsireno on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 at 16:11.

#4 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 10/10/2006 8:09:39 PM
#3, Why do you say that?

Say a company has been testing - systems, servers, software and third party applications and they have assurance. If they are like many shops, they have a lab and have nearly completed their tests by now. Say that same company plans to rolls Exchange 2007 at the same time and they are in BETA 2 with it now and have tested it. It isn't hard and there are tools for all of it.

I mean, if the company has tested, it doesn't cost them as much and they want to move, why would they wait for an SP1 if they have tested and certified their systems? Thanks - I'd like to know what supports your perspective.

#5 By 20505 (216.102.144.11) at 10/10/2006 10:05:10 PM
#4

I second #3s comment.

Although Vista will probably make it on business desks far faster than on home computers, the "upgrade" market from XP will probably be abysmal.

#6 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 10/10/2006 11:34:23 PM
#5, OK, cool, but what is behind that? Is it a decision based upon a wider view, or specific tests? That is my curiosity. I agree, just blowing Vista, or any OS on would be unwise; however, after having run tests for your company, or the companies you support, I reason one would make such a decision based upon results.

I also mean, that such studies have to include a solid effort to determine benefits and risks - for example, to take advantage of more unified communications, and better collaboration in a deployment parallel to select new servers, or applications you are building.

I am not sure how home users will behave. Despite selling into the SMB market, which also includes a lot of custom systems for homes [a lot, relative our small numbers of people], I have to agree, general knowledge of Windows Vista is scant - most of my customers who buy for their homes have not mentioned Vista in any way - it is like they are totally unaware of it.

The same may be said for Intel's new "Core" architecture and its shift to C2 and now, C4.

The truth is, they don't much care about computing science - most are professionals of one type or another, and by the time they get home, they are blasted tired and busy with kids and their homes.

At the same time, they each have systems we prepare for them that they see as simple extensions to their offices - chances to work more flexible hours, or to stay at the house when the day, or traffic looks to be just too much to deal with.

It's interesting - seeing how they really do see these systems as being part of the office.

When one does mention Vista - say for children, many of our customers are so jaded - so tired of supporting kids that misused systems in the past. Many are fatigued. When one does begin to explain UAC and parental controls, then, and only then, do they seem to pick up some interest. One can go on and on about new features to support media, and it goes south - mention locking down a system from a 14 year old's influence, and suddenly Dad momentarily grows ears again. But not for long.

I think I know why... and why so much about Vista still bugs me... - it's the dumbing down of America. A lot about the Vista UX is placed deeper into the UI and further away from users - that I think was about dumbing it down.

There is so much of that going on - numb were are... as we piss away hour after hour staring into Goog-Tube [formely Youtube].... working so hard to figure out how not to xxxxxxxx - just fill in your own blanks... how not to stand up and fight wackoid terrorists.... wackoid dictators...., or how not to lean forward and do something new... it's hard and we might fail....

Man, I know what it is to be tired and sometimes sick and tired... Anyone in this industry feels that way sometimes - especially those facing customers, or fleets of enterprise users.

cont...

#7 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 10/10/2006 11:35:11 PM
I just can't help but sense that some people are not just tired, but resigned. Wait on this, or wait on that... no beef with that at all.... I just hope it is about a decision based upon hard work and tests and not because it's just easier.

I'm off to do an upgrade on a custom MCE 2005 system - to Vista 5744 - just to see what happens [it better go well.... because I really like that box and worked a long time to get its HDMI and HD goodness all set just as I hoped it would be for others]. If it goes south, it'll be another late one, but it'll be rebuilt by morning one way or another. This one I will do for Susan and her roomate, Ross. We recently built a beautifil, nearly first of its kind system that is purely HD w/HDMI video from Sapphire connected to a 32" ViewSonic LCD. It is such a nice build and they want to know how Vista Ultimate will run on it this January.

They are really nice people, and the smiles on their faces and the excitement they exhibited when the system first booted up was the best part of last week. Sometimes staying tough in this business is not about being tough at all, it's about finding that one thing to stay pumped up about and using it to tap into the energy your customers have inside them.

#8 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 10/11/2006 11:29:16 AM
Well, at least bob agrees with himself.

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