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  Palm, Gateway to Testify Against Microsoft
Time: 05:43 EST/10:43 GMT | News Source: Reuters | Posted By: Julien Jay

Nine states still pursuing an antitrust case against Microsoft Corp. will call executives from Palm Inc. and Gateway Inc. to testify in court hearings to help make their case for severe sanctions against the company, according to a court filing this week. The states, who have refused to sign on to a settlement between Microsoft and the U.S. Justice Department, listed executives from the two companies among more than a dozen witnesses they plan to call during hearings set to begin on Aug. 11 on what sanctions should be imposed on Microsoft, according to pre-trial statements filed with U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly.

Anthony Fama, a group counsel for Gateway, will testify "that the states' proposed remedy is necessary to prevent Microsoft from continuing to favor personal computer manufacturers who support Microsoft's products, to the disadvantage of personal computer manufacturers who do not," the dissenting states said in their court filing Friday. Fama "will testify that Microsoft's Proposed Remedy does not prohibit this behavior," the states said. In addition, Michael Mace, Chief Competitive Officer of Palm, will testify that Microsoft "has attempted to block Palm's development through anti-competitive actions such as blocking access to Microsoft's development tools," the dissenting states said.

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#1 By 135 (208.50.201.48) at 3/3/2002 11:27:46 AM
If you can't compete with Dell on quality... It must be Microsoft's fault!

#2 - CompUSA is part of the conspiracy.

#2 By 2459 (66.25.124.8) at 3/3/2002 1:35:10 PM
Maybe Palm will argue that the Palm web browser (if they have one) can't access MSDN.

#3 By 1295 (216.84.210.100) at 3/3/2002 4:44:58 PM
#9 Why can't Palm just write their own interfaces to the PC? They are more than welcome to do so. Microsoft would have to actively write code that kept Palms Sync software from synconizing. They have never done that and will never do that. It would have to be released with a patch or something every time Palm changed their code (Remember AOL's fight against MSN messenger).

What you are saying is that Microsoft must create a specific API for people to easily sync devices with pieces of the operating system. Well Personally I think that is BS. If they wanted to they could and in alot of cases they do have API's that make it very easy to do so. Microsoft has built their own sync software and so should Palm. There is nothing secretive about it. Hell I've written my own sync software for my laptop.

By what you are saying MS needs to write APIs into windows and publish them for every possible thing application providers could ever want to do. Should we pass a law that outlines every API that MS must include in windows? MS provides API's to help developers which helps MS's sales. They only do that as a feature. This entire case is based on the government and/or the competitors of MS deciding what features can and cannot (and now must) be included in windows. That is not they world I want to live in.

Palm is complaining about what could happen. You cannot base a case or sanctions based off of what MS could do... I could kill my wife tonight but you can't charge and sentence me for a crime I could commit.

Oh and #9... All of your comparisons are silly.

#4 By 531 (66.188.86.105) at 3/3/2002 6:00:23 PM
#9, all of your statements are either uninformed, or unintelligent.

Have you even used a PDA? Did you know that Palm handhelds come with a program called HotSync, that *gasp* synchronizes data with a PC?!?!!?! OH GOD!!! HOW it the world did they do that if Microsoft was keeping them down!?!

And hey, get this... you can even synchronize your Palm with *double gasp* Microsoft Outlook!!!!!!!!! It's an impossibility I tell you... an impossibility! It's against the laws of nature, man! The world is going to end!

All of your statements are... well, you get the drift.

#5 By 2332 (165.247.6.215) at 3/3/2002 6:37:04 PM
It all comes down to this:

Microsoft is an extremely successful company... sometimes in spite of themselves. They have such massive resources; many feel that using these resources makes their entrance into markets, and the subsequent competition, unfair.

I can certainly understand this idea. If I've worked hard to develop a product, and then some massive company with $20 billion in the bank comes along and crushes me, even though I was there first, I would be mad too.

Companies are free, however, to use whatever resources they wish to compete, short of physical force, to compete. Microsoft was brutal. They crushed even the smallest competition, and didn't leave any of the big guys (like 3Com, AOL, Oracle) alone either. They used their war chest to flood the markets with their products, and gain huge market share from industry leaders and startups alike.

It's funny that 3Com's Palm Pilot still has the vast majority of the market, yet is complaining that Microsoft has harmed them. Well obviously! Competition benefits consumers and harms competitors! That's the point! Competition is supposed to be ruthless!


But that's the point of business: to make money. The line between honorable competition and evil Anti-Trust seems both arbitrary and blurry. I guess I just need to read up on the reasoning behind anti-trust ideology.

It seems like Microsoft is being punished for having more resources than everybody else. It's like saying that businesses can grow and utilize their resources as long as those business don't get too big, then their growth and ability to compete must be stunted because they were too good at the game.

#6 By 61 (65.32.169.133) at 3/3/2002 7:03:22 PM
Well said, RMD.

#7 By 1658 (12.251.22.39) at 3/3/2002 7:19:51 PM
Yes - Well said. However, I must correct one fact. It's $38 billion in the bank as of the most recent balance sheet release. :)

#8 By 1913 (68.14.48.57) at 3/3/2002 8:37:12 PM
Well you know what they say, when you’re number one everybody is going to try and cut down in your knees.

It is like when Wal-Mart advertised that their product was all “Made in the USA”, and someone accidentally made a mistake of putting a label “Made in the USA” on a shirt that was made other than USA. That was a headliner …anyone remember that “fiasco”?

Then again …I think this is a very silly comparison. What do I know?

By the way, I support PDAs. One thing I don’t understand is “How the hell in the world can Palm cannot create a sync program with MS Outlook?”, while another company named Pumatech was able to made Palm and Handspring devices communicate with MS Outlook. It just doesn’t make any sense. Yes I do know that Palm comes with their calendar and contact client application, but it doesn’t make any sense. Can some please tell me why? I might be just misinformed here.


This post was edited by rommels on Sunday, March 03, 2002 at 21:19.

#9 By 61 (65.32.169.133) at 3/3/2002 9:35:54 PM
Rommels, I would answer, but I cannot figure out what the heck you are trying to say.

I sincerely hope English is not your native tounge.

#10 By 1913 (68.14.48.57) at 3/3/2002 10:51:36 PM
JaggedFlame and sodaj3rk thanks for the support. =)
Not like some other people in here, they will just cut you right away.

Thanks again.

#11 By 1845 (12.254.231.11) at 3/4/2002 12:35:17 AM
lol. If we didn't treat "right" as an adverb, soda's mistake would have been much more obvious.

Anyway, did someone want to answer rommels question?

#12 By 1845 (12.254.231.11) at 3/4/2002 12:49:19 AM
I'll match that off-topic URL with another one. http://www.satirewire.com/news/0008/satire-microsofthated.shtml

#13 By 531 (66.188.86.105) at 3/4/2002 1:02:43 AM
"Why doesn't Palm add the ability for PDAs to communicate with Microsoft Outlook in their communication software?"

Probably because Palm seems to think that it would give Microsoft an "edge" over their Palm Desktop software (which is a bastardized Claris Works). I've got news for them... I'd rather use chalk and a sidewalk in Seattle to keep track of my appointments than their crappy software, as, I think, would many people. That's why they include PocketMirror on the Palm CDs (or, at least, they used to). So people would have a choice... between crap and productivity.

#14 By 61 (65.32.169.133) at 3/4/2002 11:31:32 PM
peipas, I'm just going to go out on a lim and say that you have absolutley NO clue what you are talking about.

What does Microsoft's actions in "leveraging" their Windows monopoly in order to gain markets in other monopolies have to do with Palms software? Not a single thing.

Microsoft doesn't have to release API's, it's thier own creation. Heck, it's not like things can't be done without those API's, and it's not like those API's can really be hidden.

I hate to tell you this, but MS does not have any special way of building an interface, UI, communications, or otherwise, into thier products.

Why don't you just go out and say that Palm Pilots are better than PocketPC's, then EVERYONE can see what a bold faced spreader of FUD you are.

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