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Microsoft Launches Visual Studio .NET Academic With New Computer Science Instruction and Teaching Tools | |
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| Time: 10:32 EST/15:32 GMT | News Source: Microsoft Press Release | Posted By: Byron Hinson | ||
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Microsoft Corp. today announced the official release of Microsoft® Visual Studio® .NET Academic, an enhanced version of Microsoft's milestone Visual Studio .NET that allows computer science faculty and students to easily build course development and instruction on .NET for all levels of computer science education. Announced at SIGCSE 2002, the Association for Computing Machinery's Technical Symposium on Computer Science Education, Visual Studio .NET Academic includes new faculty and student tools for teaching and learning rapid application development (RAD) on the .NET platform. Visual Studio .NET Academic is the newest installment in the family of Visual Studio .NET tools launched earlier this month. | ||
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| #1 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 2/28/2002 1:56:47 PM |
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CS grads learn algorithm and data structures, but I've never seen one of them learn system design. The schools don't teach it, because that is a "practical application", and they wish to focus only on the theoretical.
CS needs to take the Engineering approach, not the Mathematical approach to teaching. |
| #2 By 2332 (129.21.145.80) at 2/28/2002 3:34:56 PM |
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There is no reason why one can't write high quality, solid applications in a RAD environment.
Most CS programs force students to use archaic tools to write their code, simply because of some out dated notion of what "real" programming is. Obviously students need to learn the basics, but using a RAD environment doesn't prevent that, nor does it prevent the creation of technically advanced applications. Visual Studio.NET doesn't hide anything. |
| #3 By 2332 (129.21.145.80) at 2/28/2002 7:28:39 PM |
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Why does everybody equate RAD with VB? Yes, VB is a RAD environment, but not all RAD environments are like VB!!!
I am certainly not suggesting people learn a solid foundation in CS by using VB, I'm simply saying that you don't have to use VI to be a "real" programmer. Here is some food for thought: Quake 1, Quake 2, and Quake 3 were all written using Microsoft Visual C++. |
| #4 By 2332 (129.21.145.80) at 2/28/2002 7:32:35 PM |
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Oh, and one more thing, have any of you looked over the features of VS.NET Academic Edition?
I wrote a proposal for a university to suggest they switch to VS.NET Academic Edition within the next 5 years. The first reaction everybody had was "Microsoft? No thanks." Once they realized how cool some of the stuff was, they reluctantly decided to seriously consider the proposal. Now, with all the Anti-MS people in charge at the university, I seriously doubt it will happy anytime before .NET becomes the dominant development platform, but at least it opened some people's eyes. |
| #5 By 1845 (12.254.231.11) at 2/28/2002 9:19:45 PM |
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#6 I find it interesting that you seem to put C and VB in the same category and put Java in a different one. I don't think Java holds a candle to the potential complexity of C programs.
TickleMe, I think our definitions of RAD differ. I think that it is easier to write a pure C++ application in VS6 than it is in vi, or KDevelop, or KWrite or "A Simple Text Editor". I only code in C# on VisualStudio .NET, but I imagine it is just as easy there. Now, what makes it easier for me to develop? For starters - a visual debugger, IntelliSense, context sensitive help, integrated help (no searching through man pages), sample code, Enterprise templates etc. As far as universities go, the only gui app I did in college was...wait, I didn't do any gui apps. I haven't seen much "drag and drop" going on with non-gui related apps. If anything, the strictly object-oriented nature of .NET should make solid design a more natural part of the development process. Rather than push people away, it seems people should embrace this. |
| #6 By 135 (208.50.201.48) at 3/1/2002 1:47:00 AM |
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binhex - I've yet to see someone graduate with a CS degree who knew what UML was, much less had read Fowler or had even heard of Rational.
CS get's caught up in stupid theoretical crap like trying to mathematically validate your application instead of teaching practical things like use cases, specifications and so on. Whatever, every time I go back and talk to someone in CS they are convinced that shit is important. |
| #7 By 135 (208.50.201.48) at 3/1/2002 1:47:02 AM |
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binhex - I've yet to see someone graduate with a CS degree who knew what UML was, much less had read Fowler or had even heard of Rational.
CS get's caught up in stupid theoretical crap like trying to mathematically validate your application instead of teaching practical things like use cases, specifications and so on. Whatever, every time I go back and talk to someone in CS they are convinced that shit is important. |
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