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  Cuba to switch computers to Linux, dumping Windows
Time: 00:25 EST/05:25 GMT | News Source: *Linked Within Post* | Posted By: Kenneth van Surksum

Cuba will gradually switch to the open-source Linux operating system for its state computers, eliminating its exclusive use of Microsoft Windows, the government daily Juventud Rebelde reported Tuesday.

Roberto del Puerto, director of the state office of information technology, told the daily that Cuba already has about 1,500 computers using the Linux system, a free operating system whose technical data is open for public viewing.

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#1 By 9589 (68.17.52.2) at 5/17/2006 1:04:27 AM
Yeah, and the CIO from Munich is helping with the conversion! Completion date is schedule for the 22d century. lol

By the way, hasn't that murdering tyrant, Castro, died yet? How many more decades can Cuba be the land of the '56 Chevy?

#2 By 32132 (64.180.219.241) at 5/17/2006 8:59:42 AM
Linux is such a favorite among countires with political prisoners.

#3 By 3746 (71.19.43.237) at 5/17/2006 9:22:31 AM
Cuba actually bought legitimate licenses of Windows?

#2 You mean people that are held without trial, for extended periods of time, without being able to face thier accusers. hmmm i wonder what country does that too?

This post was edited by kaikara on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 09:24.

#4 By 13030 (24.1.110.205) at 5/17/2006 9:26:06 AM
#2: lol

#5 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 5/17/2006 9:26:17 AM
#3: Watch out. Parkkker drinks both the MS and Bush Kool-Aid.

#6 By 32132 (142.32.208.232) at 5/17/2006 11:58:01 AM
Its sad to see the OSS crowds thinks Al Quada prisoners at Guantonamo are morally equivalent to people who write or say the wrong the thing in Havana.

These are crimes in Cuba:

ACSE - acts against State Security
ACPE - acts against powers of the State
AI - ilicit association
C - Sedition
Co - Conspiracy
D - disrespect
DCJ - disrespect of the Commander in Chief
De - Desertion
DHM - Defamation of heroes and martyrs
DP - Public disorder
E - espionage
EE - economic espionage
EIP - Illegal entry into the country
FD - Falsification of Documents
H - Labor Strike
IA - Intent to asylum
I - Infiltration
II - Illegal businesses
Int - Intent to ...
P - Piracy
PAF - Posession of a fire arm
PE - Enemy Propaganda
Pel - Dangerousness
R - rebellion
RI - ilicit reunion
RS - revelation of secrets
S - Sabotage
SIP - Illegal exit from the country
T - terrorism
TD - money exchange
TJ - Jehovah's Witness
TR - Treason
V - Vandalism
XFAR - ex-military

http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/prison.html

#7 By 32132 (142.32.208.232) at 5/17/2006 11:59:58 AM
"The Government of Cuba's March 2003 sentencing of 75 pro-democracy advocates to up to 28 years in prison constitutes the most severe crackdown on Cuban dissidents in over two decades, marking a worrisome deterioration in Cuba’s human rights policies. As if the convictions do not violate human rights sufficiently, the atrocious prison conditions, under which the prisoners of conscience serve out their sentences, add yet more violations to Cuba's list of human rights abuses. Contaminated water, rancid food, poor hygiene, and little to no access to medical services are just some of abuses to which the prisoners are subjected."

http://www.state.gov/p/wha/rls/fs/22972.htm

#8 By 32132 (142.32.208.232) at 5/17/2006 12:00:29 PM
#3,4 and 5. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

#9 By 32313 (72.27.115.10) at 5/17/2006 12:31:43 PM
I wonder how Fidel Castro reacts to a BSOD? ;)

#10 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 5/17/2006 1:02:54 PM
#8: Blow it out your butt, Parkkker. Considering that the US has had a hate-on for Cuba for, what, 40 years now, I would take any propaganda from the US State Dept regarding Cuba with a grain of salt. Cuba has never invaded any other nation based on known lies as far as I'm aware. And the US shouldn't be throwing stones considering Guatanamo Bay has been denounced by every major country on Earth as a gulag that denies people their rights and due process.

#11 By 3746 (71.19.43.237) at 5/17/2006 2:25:13 PM
#8

Why should i be ashamed of myself? I just pointed out the human rights abuses that your own government has committed? I am not saying that Cuba is some beautiful place to be (i have actually been there theough - can you say that Parker?) and doesn't have huge problems and human rights abuses.

Oh and just because you say someone in Gitmo is part of a terrorist organization doesn't make it true. You know normally you need a trial and present evidence to this fact. Just not hold people indefinitely without allowing them counsel. Sad that your country says they are bringing democrazy and freedom to the rest of the world but holds themselves above their own laws.

"Contaminated water, rancid food, poor hygiene, and little to no access to medical services are just some of abuses to which the prisoners are subjected." Well it is nice to know thw the US takes better care of their prisoners then they do the poor person on the street. Universal heath care - nope. Access to 3 square meals a day - nada. I have been many places in Cuba and let me tell you I have seen people worse off in the good old U-S of A

This post was edited by kaikara on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 at 14:29.

#12 By 9589 (68.17.52.2) at 5/17/2006 2:28:10 PM
Once again, Latch, you sound like an idiot.

Here is a snap shot of just some of Cuba's incursions abroad:
"Throughout the 1970s and 1980s, Cuba expanded its military presence abroad, spending millions of dollars in exporting revolutions; deployments reached 50,000 troops in Angola, 24,000 in Ethiopia, 1,500 in Nicaragua, and hundreds more elsewhere. In Angola, Cuban troops, supported logistically by the U.S.S.R., backed the Popular Movement for the Liberation of Angola (MPLA) in its effort to take power after Portugal granted Angola its independence. Cuban forces played a key role in Ethiopia's war against Somalia and remained there in substantial numbers as a garrison force for a decade. Cubans served in a non-combat advisory role in Mozambique and the Congo. Cuba also used the Congo as a logistical support center for Cuba's Angola mission."

By the way, while you are so concerned about people that wouldn't think twice about separating your head from your shoulders. if these same people that are at Gitmo tried to do what they did before they were captured by our forces in any communist country they would have been simply executed. Yeah, no three squares, medical, dental, and vision checks, ability to worship in the manner they please, etc. But, heh, you don't have to do what they did if they lived in a communist country. There, they will jail, torture, and kill you for trying to have the same freedoms that we enjoy as a matter of course. But, I suspect you knew that already, Latch.

#13 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 5/17/2006 2:47:00 PM
#12: Wow. You cut & pasted stuff in quotes, so I know it MUST be true! btw I didn't see anything in there about Cuba invading another country based on known lies, which is what I said. I don't give a tin sh~t how many troops they may or may not have around the world. If you want to compare Cuban global interference versus US global interference over the past 100 years, you'll lose.

And I've fought this strawman argument before. Yes, I am aware that there are nasty countries out there. Does that mean that it's OK for the US to use their methods, so long as the US isn't the worst of the bunch? That seems to be what you're saying. Sounds like Bush and his nonsense about being able to do whatever he pleases during a time of war (a war that, conveniently, will never end). I thought the US held itself to a higher standard. As for Gitmo, you're assuming that, because people are there, they must be bad. Haven't several been sent home already when the Army discovered they had made an oops? "Sorry we locked your ass up for 4 years without charges, counsel, trial or anything. Here's some Freedom Fries to make up for it."

Take another swig of Kool-Aid.

#14 By 16797 (70.48.254.35) at 5/17/2006 4:12:43 PM
DCJ - disrespect of the Commander in Chief

Hehehehe, that one is *really* funny :-)

Well, at least George Dubya Bush won't stay with us forever.

#15 By 16797 (70.48.254.35) at 5/17/2006 4:31:17 PM
#13 If you want to compare Cuban global interference versus US global interference over the past 100 years, you'll lose.


Sure. Shell we start with World War II?

#16 By 13783 (66.176.20.75) at 5/17/2006 5:33:07 PM
This makes absolutely no difference at all for the people of Cuba; all computers in Cuba are owned and controlled by the government; there's virtually no home desktops in Cuba unless a relative that lives abroad send them to the island hidden somehow, anyway I really doubt it the thugs of Fidel Castro has paid for any Windows licenses whatsoever; oh and to those who think I don't know what I'm talking about; I was born in Cuba and lived there till I was 20 so I DO know what I'm saying.

#17 By 32132 (142.32.208.232) at 5/17/2006 6:30:23 PM
#11 "I just pointed out the human rights abuses that your own government has committed?"

Imprisoning terrorists is not a human rights abuse. What many in the loony left suggest is that the US treat terrorists and soldiers as if they were guilty of normal criminal behaviour and therefore should get criminal trials.

However, during a war, soldiers captured by opposing forces are routinely detained until after combat has ended. When Al Quada surrenders and stops fighting, those not guilty of war crimes should be let go.

Equating the imprisonment of combatants during war time with what Cuba has done is evidence of mental derangment on your part.




#18 By 15406 (24.43.125.29) at 5/17/2006 6:33:18 PM
#15: "Sure. Shell we start with World War II?"

Sure, go for it. That's a bad example though, as the US didn't get involved until the war was about 2 years in, and only then because of Pearl Harbor.

#19 By 3746 (71.19.43.237) at 5/17/2006 7:30:12 PM
#17

Interesting that you can make the geneva convention say whatever you want. Who picks when the conflict started and ended? The US. Who decides that a group of people can be held indefinitely without trial? The US. Who says there is even a war going on? The US.

Seems interesting that the ones holding people are the ones setting up all the rules. By picking and choosing to apply the geneva convention they could techinally hold someone forever while this "war" goes on. I noticed they seemed to have forgotten about other elements of the geneva convention including torture and humilation of POW's.

There is no proof that any of the men in gitmo actally are combatants. They have let a number of people go without charges or trial that had been imprisoned for years. Obviously if they have evidence against these men they would have been held and tried. How many more people in there were just in the wrong place at the wrong time? We will never know unless there is transperancy in the process but i really doubt you will see that.

It is not mental derangement to question your government. Just common sense. Because you know every overnment should be trusted implicity. You know like trust that they weren't comiling databases of all phone calls made by US citizens. They said they weren't doing that right? oops looks like they were.

#20 By 28801 (68.45.209.133) at 5/17/2006 7:57:29 PM
I like Windows...

#21 By 32132 (64.180.219.241) at 5/17/2006 11:16:21 PM
#19 "they could techinally hold someone forever while this "war" goes on"

Thats the way war works. Vietnam held some prisoners for 9 years: 1964-1973. Soldiers captured in 1939 didn't get released until 1945.

"Who says there is even a war going on?"

Bin Laden. The Taliban. Al Queda. And a bunch of other affiliated groups.

But questioning whether there is even a war going on confirms that you are delusional.


#22 By 47914 (24.225.231.107) at 5/18/2006 7:05:31 AM
All of you above who believe these Gitmo folks are innocent or other prisoners as well, please offer to let them live at your place until the trial. Oh...and you will be held responsible(not legally, of course) if they somehow suddenly get corrupted by the US culture and commit terroist acts, or other criminal acts. Feed and cloth them as well and pay for medical coverage. I'd rather direct the outrageous sums of money spent on "innocent" prisoners to our aging public education system, or to assist our OWN poor people in the US. Last I read, ~$20,000+ per prisoner per year. ~$9,000 per year per student. Students don't get FREE med. but even CONVICTED prisoners get this.

#23 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 5/18/2006 11:38:45 AM
#23: Here's a better idea. How about the US practice what it preaches? The US is not above the law, federal or international. The people in Gitmo may be bad-asses, and maybe not. That's what trials are for - to determine guilt and punish accordingly.

#24 By 32132 (64.180.219.241) at 5/18/2006 11:50:24 AM
#23 If they are POW's, no trials are necessary. The prisoners are being treated well above what every other country treats POW's.

On the other hand, if they aren't POW's, but spies and/or terrorists, they should be put on trial. And then executed, which is the traditional legal punishment for combatants who do not wear a uniform and therefore do not recieve the rights a uniformed soldier is to be accorded.

#25 By 47914 (24.225.231.107) at 5/18/2006 12:52:44 PM
US does practice what it preaches, we are within our rights to protect our citizens. "maybe not" bad-asses?? All of the bleeding hearts should form a non-profit organization, contribute THEIR hard earned money, and pay to protect the rights of these gitmo people and any other criminals. Also pay for the prisoners country-club like amenities( not gitmo), free law services, and medical benefits. Then perhaps more of MY taxes can fund our childrens' futures in our schools, and at least SOME medical for our poor, etc. There are many better uses for our tax money than for people who break the law or openly threaten to kill us and our way of life. The US ain't perfect, but it sure seems like a lot of people are trying to come and live here.

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