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Vista to hit antispyware, firewall markets | |
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| Time: 00:48 EST/05:48 GMT | News Source: News.com | Posted By: Kenneth van Surksum | ||
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New security features in Windows Vista will largely eliminate the need to run separate antispyware or firewall software, according to a new analyst report. Due out early next year, the next major release of Microsoft's flagship operating system promises not only to increase security for consumers, it will also dramatically affect the $3.6 billion market for Windows security products, according to a Yankee Group report scheduled to be published Monday. | ||
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| #1 By 3 (62.253.128.12) at 5/8/2006 1:04:14 AM |
| No real surprise that it will hit them, but unlike the non-needed inclusion of IE into windows years ago, there is a need to give basic protection to users and thats all the firewall and spyware software is in Vista, basic. |
| #2 By 7760 (12.155.143.50) at 5/8/2006 8:47:53 AM |
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Byron, if IE weren't included with Windows, just how would someone obtain a web browser? Obviously, downloading one off of the web wouldn't be an option. Having a web browser included with Windows was essential before Automatic Updates when Windows was patched primarily through Windows Update, and it still is essential because of the pervasiveness and importance of the web. I think that history has proven Microsoft's case for the inclusion of IE into Windows.
Back on topic, though, I agree that firewall and spyware are important to include in Windows, as well. I also think that anti-virus should be included, but companies like Symantec would make a huge legal stink about that. I have no problem with operating systems including essential services, and I don't really care that much of the large Windows security market will be adversely affected. They wouldn't have had nearly as much of a market in the first place if Microsoft hadn't left that niche to them until now. This post was edited by Osprey on Monday, May 08, 2006 at 08:54. |
| #3 By 415 (12.40.148.19) at 5/8/2006 9:15:42 AM |
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Remember MSAV in DOS 6? Didn't it also have a Windows 3.1 component to it?
It makes you wonder why they decided to pull those features... I agree with Osprey for the most part. The AV companies have been over charging and bogging down our PCs with no significant advance in the technology for long enough. I don't feel bad. The corporate market is still huge for these companies. |
| #4 By 7711 (209.204.74.18) at 5/8/2006 9:20:09 AM |
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I agree with you Byron...BASIC protection with the almost universal use of the internet is an essential part of any modern OS today. The 3rd parties can add bells and whistles and charge for it.
Example: basic file management: Windows Explorer. More robust file management from a 3rd party: PowerDesk. Firewall, AV and anti-spyware SHOULD be part of the modern OS. The 3rd party vendors must add value (features and price) or die. |
| #5 By 35699 (66.68.34.242) at 5/8/2006 9:52:14 AM |
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I don't buy in to this theory -
Vista will provide pretty good basic protection. Mom and Pops who us eit religiously and be careful what they surf and do or do not open wil be ok. 3rd-party add-ons will be needed to take it to the extreme. However, that said, third-party add-ons are due for a dosage of reality. They are often providing poor service, their applications are full of bugs (the hated Symantec especially - anod note the first company to start whining), and they are loading up their applications with junk nobody needs (or having tried them all, wants). I dare say they are making the entire issue a lot worse because of their sometimes bumbling efforts. Remember that these 3rd parties have every right to be in business, to make good or crappy products, and to be subject to the praise or wrath of consumers. And competition wil be very very very good for this marketplace. It'll drive to better functiion for everybody, it'll drive prices down, it'll drive more virus and spyware makers out of business. And if one or two of the third-parties falls out of this market - then fine. Nobody said they have a holy right to hold us all hostage for another ~15 years. They need to stay flexible, they need to stay lean, and they need to stay smart in order to survive and prosper. They aren't any of those things now. |
| #6 By 3 (62.253.128.12) at 5/8/2006 10:26:17 AM |
| #2 - It's difficult to know how that should have been dealt with, but people had browsers before IE, how did they get them? My view of it would be that they bundled a set of different browsers with links to each on the desktop for users to try them and decide which was best. |
| #7 By 61 (71.251.125.10) at 5/8/2006 10:34:18 AM |
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ISPs bundled browsers (My first browser was NetCom NetCruiser, a POS).
I really don't think it is up to Microsoft to add links to other people's browsers. Really, I think it is quite absurd to make them do that. |
| #8 By 3 (62.253.128.12) at 5/8/2006 10:51:20 AM |
| I agree with you there too, but then I think its unethical to bundle a browser in an OS like that to stop a company who had a large share of the net back then. But hey times have passed and it won't be allowed to happen again and thankfully in that case at the time, the best browser won anyway. |
| #9 By 32132 (142.32.208.232) at 5/8/2006 11:07:04 AM |
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"but people had browsers before IE, how did they get them?"
Gopher. FTP. Or they bought some software with Spyglass technology included (Spyglass, the company that was supposed to get the Mosaic technology ... but Netscape stole it). "My view of it would be that they bundled a set of different browsers with links to each on the desktop for users to try them and decide which was best." And Netscape should have bundled IE with all Netscape downloads, so everyone could choose the best one. |
| #10 By 2960 (68.101.39.180) at 5/8/2006 11:13:10 AM |
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yeah, right :)
TL |
| #11 By 12071 (203.185.215.149) at 5/9/2006 12:07:59 AM |
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#6 "how did they get them?"
... or off nearly every single pc magazine with a cd/dvd attached. They all used to have Netscape on them and now they all have Firefox and IE on them. #9 "Spyglass, the company that was supposed to get the Mosaic technology ... but Netscape stole it" Spyglass, the company who Microsoft licensed Mosaic from on the basis of paying Spyglass a base quarterly fee for the Mosaic license plus a royalty from Microsoft's Internet Explorer revenue? The revenue that adds up to a nice round figure of $0 given that Microsoft bundled IE with Windows to ensure that they only had to pay the minimal quarterly fee. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spyglass "In 1997, Spyglass threatened Microsoft with a contractual audit, in response to which Microsoft settled for US$8 million." Don't be a hypocrite now, Spyglass was screwed over by both Netscape and Microsoft, just in different ways. |
| #12 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 5/9/2006 10:24:04 AM |
| What? Microsoft screwing some company over licensed IP?? That's not the Microsoft I know. MS has said time and again that IP is practically holy. Surely they didn't mean just their IP? I'm sure all those court cases where MS was exposed as a thief and liar were just simple misunderstandings. |
| #13 By 32132 (64.180.219.241) at 5/9/2006 7:03:14 PM |
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"given that Microsoft bundled IE with Windows to ensure that they only had to pay the minimal quarterly fee"
Relying on Wikipedia is for idiots ... especially when another entry completely demolishes another. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Plus%21 "Internet Explorer technology originally shipped as the Internet Jumpstart Kit in Microsoft Plus! For Windows 95." I believe they sold millions of those for 39.95. Netscape stole the source code for Mosaic. Microsoft paid for it. This post was edited by NotParker on Tuesday, May 09, 2006 at 19:07. |
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