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| Time: 09:06 EST/14:06 GMT | News Source: Apple | Posted By: John Quigley | ||
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More and more people are buying and loving Macs. To make this choice simply irresistible, Apple will include technology in the next major release of Mac OS X, Leopard, that lets you install and run the Windows XP operating system on your Mac. Called Boot Camp (for now), you can download a public beta today. As elegant as it gets Boot Camp lets you install Windows XP without moving your Mac data, though you will need to bring your own copy to the table, as Apple Computer does not sell or support Microsoft Windows.(1) Boot Camp will burn a CD of all the required drivers for Windows so you don't have to scrounge around the Internet looking for them. | ||
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| #1 By 665 (198.51.49.2) at 4/5/2006 9:21:18 AM |
| Nice! Downloading now... I wonder how quickly it will run. |
| #2 By 2960 (68.101.39.180) at 4/5/2006 9:54:49 AM |
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Well, now. This is definitely #1 on the "Stories I thought I'd never read" list...
TL |
| #3 By 9589 (71.49.184.222) at 4/5/2006 10:27:35 AM |
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I can just see the ubiquitous product placements now - Mac with Windows running on the screen. Now, if that would just raise Apples' market share . . . Plunk!@$#@
Meanwhile, Apple is preparing to screw over their customers, again, with yet another at cost "upgrade" of their OS. |
| #4 By 665 (198.51.49.2) at 4/5/2006 11:19:49 AM |
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#3, at least Apple customers get regular upgrades :-)
When Leopard comes out it will be about 18 months since Tiger (at least as the rumors go). Microsoft generally targets 24 months between Windows releases, although that has obviously not the case with Vista. |
| #5 By 32132 (142.32.208.231) at 4/5/2006 12:57:22 PM |
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I am pretty sure this is the end for OS X. It costs a lot of money to keep an OS in development.
If Apple is going to go out of their way to allow XP to run on Apple hardware, why not go all the way. They make most of their money the iPod anyway. Apple ... just another PC maker. |
| #6 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 4/5/2006 3:04:41 PM |
| This amounts to the Apple take on LILO, and as far as that goes, it looks slick. However, dual-boot is not that interesting from a functional standpoint compared to a virtualization solution. I really thought virtualization is what Apple would introduce, since that seems to be the greater desire--to run Windows software in a Mac environment. With this, on one machine you can run Windows or you can run OS X--but never the twain shall meet. |
| #7 By 32132 (142.32.208.231) at 4/5/2006 4:38:08 PM |
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#6 I think Jobs sees the writing on the wall. Mac sales barely move up from quarter to quarter while PC sales move up 3-4% per quarter.
From Q4 2005 to Q1 2006 Mac sales went up 18,000 units. PC sales went up something like 4,000,000 a quarter. Apple needs to be in the Windows PC business to make money on PC sales. |
| #8 By 9589 (71.49.184.222) at 4/5/2006 10:13:11 PM |
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ToddAW, I thought you were one of the "pobahs" on this site. If that is tue, your comments are especially disengenous. Windows XP comes in home, professional, media center, and tablet editions. All have had improvements in terms to both feature set and security added since their initial release. None of these improvements have cost the consumer a nickel.
Meanwhile, NotParker, you have it all wrong. Going to the Apple annual report is just, well, "analog." Get "digital" NotParker! Every time you see an Apple product placement, that is one product "sold." The next time you see the same TV or movie and you see the product plaement, that's two "sold." See how easy it is? Just ask any MAC zealot. MACs have an installed "base" of gazillons. Now, you too can be a Mac magazine editor/writer. |
| #9 By 665 (198.51.49.2) at 4/6/2006 12:26:49 PM |
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jdhawk, Media Center and Tablet editions hardly count as new versions - they merely extend the functionality of XP and are available only through select distribution channels. The only thing you might count as an "upgrade" is SP2, which basically fixed things that should have been fixed or included in XP to begin with.
I'm not saying that everyone needs to rush out and buy every new release Apple puts out, but they have a better track record of delivering on a regular schedule. I don't think there's much denying that. |
| #10 By 32132 (142.32.208.231) at 4/6/2006 1:24:32 PM |
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"which basically fixed things that should have been fixed or included in XP to begin with"
Kind of like OS X 10.1, 10.2 and 10.3 ... only SP2 for XP was free. |
| #11 By 2960 (68.101.39.180) at 4/6/2006 1:29:01 PM |
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"which basically fixed things that should have been fixed or included in XP to begin with"
Kind of like OS X 10.1, 10.2 and 10.3 ... only SP2 for XP was free. " It kills me to agree with NotParker, but on this one I have to. TL |
| #12 By 665 (198.51.49.2) at 4/6/2006 2:47:10 PM |
| Dashboard, Automator, and Spotlight are all good features Apple has added in its various upgrades, while SP2 offered basically only security features. I am not saying those three functions alone equal however much all the upgrades would have cost. I have only been on Tiger and I like it. But I will admit a lot of what got me looking at Mac for at least one of my computers is its regular updates. The only upgrades XP gets are security patches, and I'm tired of waiting for Vista. |
| #13 By 32132 (142.32.208.231) at 4/6/2006 9:47:44 PM |
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I guess I prefer an OS that is supported for 7 years for the Home Edition and 10 or more years for the Pro to one that seems to stop updating versions after 18 months or so.
I work in a K12 School District and I am damn glad updates for XP Pro will continue for fsomething like 7 years after Vista comes out. We get tremendous value for our money, especially considering how little we have to pay for Pro with educational discounts. A toy OS like OS X or Linux drop support 12-18 months after a new version comes out, and we can't afford to visit 3500 PC's every 18 months. Of course, I'm running Windows Server 2003 R2 X64 at work as my desktop OS, so I've seen a few more changes than the the XP users. This post was edited by NotParker on Thursday, April 06, 2006 at 21:53. |
| #14 By 665 (198.51.49.2) at 4/6/2006 10:16:41 PM |
| Let's just call it what it is... you like Windows. There's nothing wrong with that. I like Windows, too, but I don't see the competition as a vile plague. Both platforms have their advantages in different areas, as well as their weaknesses. I don't see the point in getting all flustered about which OS is better. |
| #15 By 32132 (64.180.219.241) at 4/8/2006 9:59:00 AM |
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"Long-term OS support hinders progress"
It makes buying a WIndows PC a value proposition. Thats why businesses don't buy Macs. In fact, thats why so few people buy Macs. Linux and OS X are all about endlessly updating and upgrading the OS so you never have time to do productive work. By the way ... why is Apple abandoning Firewire? Screwing over the customer again just because their new masters - Intel - hated Firewire. |
| #16 By 32132 (64.180.219.241) at 4/8/2006 5:21:23 PM |
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The TCO "spreadsheet" is very interesting. I really wonder about a bunch of things:
1) OS Upgrades column for Macs is empty, when in fact the OS needs upgrading every 11-18 months at a significant cost. 139$ annually is more than most business pay for XP Pro. 2) For a PC, you supposedly have a buy Office and an email client, even though Office includes an email client and Xp includes an email client. 3) There are many other free items that the Machead insists cost money as well. 4) 1800$ for a business PC? Is this guy nuts? 5 ... I could go on and on. This "spreadsheet' is a totally biased fantasy. "please no meaningless market share arguments" Only meaningful ones. For example, Apple sold 18,000 more Macs in Q1 of 2006 than they did in Q4 of 2005. PC's sales increased by about 8 million in the same period. |
| #17 By 32132 (64.180.219.241) at 4/9/2006 1:05:28 PM |
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#22 You can claim anything want about Winn, but his spreadsheet is bogus. I notice you did not refute one of my criticisms of his bogus TCO "study".
"Well what a way to try to put negative spin in what has been a string of excellent quarters." Well, it was an atrocious quarter for Apple. 2005 Q2 = 1.070 mil 2005 Q3 = 1.182 mil - 112,000 more than Q2 2005 Q4 = 1.236 mil - 54,000 more 2006 Q1 = 1.254 mil - 18,000 more See the trend? Apple needs Windows sales to grow. IDC said Worldwide PC Sales rose by 29 million in 2005. 179 million to 208 million. http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS20051406 |
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