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  Microsoft Memo Details Latest Windows Unit Reorg
Time: 13:07 EST/18:07 GMT | News Source: Microsoft Watch | Posted By: Robert Stein

Two days after announcing Windows Vista's ship date slipped to January, Microsoft announced a sweeping reorgnization of its Platform and Services Division. Here's the internal memo detailing the changes.

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#1 By 13030 (198.22.121.110) at 3/23/2006 2:47:27 PM
"Innovation" was used ten times in that memo! Why do I imagine the MS campus full of a bunch of geeks tossing out "innovation" in every conversation so they appear to be in-line with the leadership?

#2 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 3/23/2006 3:41:24 PM
#1: It's the Big Lie in action. The more you say something, the more the uninformed take your word for it. After all, MS wouldn't say it repeatedly if it weren't true, right? Of course, the MS dictionary has redefined 'innovate' to mean 'copy, buy or steal'.

#3 By 8556 (12.207.222.149) at 3/23/2006 4:06:27 PM
Latch: The lies are very innovative, don't ya think?

#4 By 32132 (142.32.208.231) at 3/23/2006 5:23:10 PM
#2 Name 1 thing innovative about open source.

Oh right ... mono. Cloning VB is not innovative. Creating VB was innovative.


#5 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 3/24/2006 8:17:26 AM
#4: BitTorrent, off the top of my head. But we're talking about Microsoft here, Parkkker. Try to follow along.

#6 By 32132 (64.180.219.241) at 3/24/2006 9:26:36 AM
BitTorrent? Ha ha ha ha. Very droll.

#7 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 3/24/2006 12:09:37 PM
#6: What's so droll about it? Or did you just have to come up with something to say after being owned?

#8 By 32132 (142.32.208.231) at 3/24/2006 2:33:20 PM
Downloading files off the internet ... I've been doing that since before http existed.

http://www.walthowe.com/navnet/history.html

"The first effort, other than library catalogs, to index the Internet was created in 1989, as Peter Deutsch and his crew at McGill University in Montreal, created an archiver for ftp sites, which they named Archie. This software would periodically reach out to all known openly available ftp sites, list their files, and build a searchable index of the software. The commands to search Archie were unix commands, and it took some knowledge of unix to use it to its full capability"


#9 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 3/24/2006 3:50:35 PM
#8: OK, now you're just being obtuse on purpose. You know damn well that BitTorrent solved the problem of distributing large content without totally killing the original host, but go ahead and lump it in with 'file downloading'. By your logic, there is no innovation anywhere as it's all been done before -- if you abstract it high enough. MS certainly doesn't innovate, since everything they have done can be summed up as 'performing a function via computer'. I did that on my Apple ][ in the 80's. Try again.

#10 By 32132 (142.32.208.231) at 3/24/2006 7:49:27 PM
You are a moron ... with breathtaking ignorance of the history of computing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer-to-peer

"Completely decentralized networks of peers have been in use for many years: two examples are Usenet (1979) and FidoNet (1984)."


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