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| Time: 19:26 EST/00:26 GMT | News Source: News.com | Posted By: Andre Da Costa | ||
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How does Windows Vista love thy computer? Let it count the ways. Microsoft is building into the new operating system a tool that will rate a PC based on how well it is running and on how much it can take advantage of Vista's capabilities. The "Windows Performance Rating," which can be seen in the latest test version of the operating system, evaluates components such as the processor, the memory, the hard drive and graphics cards to come up with an overall score. | ||
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| #1 By 1401 (65.255.137.20) at 3/15/2006 10:05:54 PM |
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Vista build 5270 rated my pc a 3
Vista build 5308 rated my pc a 5 What are my specs? Dell XPS Gen 5 Intel Pentium D 3.0 GHz dual core 4 GB DDR2 RAM 2x500 GB SATA II RAID 0 256MB nVidia GeForce 6800 Plus I have a 20 incher (monitor that is...) |
| #2 By 61 (72.64.155.167) at 3/15/2006 10:30:33 PM |
| You have to remember, the benchmark is not a 1-10 scale, but rather an ever increasing scale, so the hardware of today needs to have a lower benchmark number so that newer hardware will still be a reasonable number. |
| #3 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 3/16/2006 12:52:31 AM |
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That's quite a beefy box, Chris. I wonder what kind of fps my mom could get in Solitaire with a system like that....
Have you read any of the benchmarks on the upcoming Intel "Conroe"? Sounds like they're finally sick of AMD stealing their lunch money. By all accounts so far, they'll be taking back the performance crown. |
| #4 By 12071 (203.158.60.13) at 3/16/2006 3:29:40 AM |
| #1 I would hope that a dual-core 4GB ram pc would rate highly! |
| #5 By 1401 (69.27.196.125) at 3/16/2006 8:56:08 AM |
| I haven't read any benchmarks on the Intel 'Conroe' yet - but I bet if I email my buddy who works at Intel, he will flood my inbox with propaganda about it. |
| #6 By 22962 (12.223.99.215) at 3/16/2006 9:19:27 AM |
| chris, you mean your monitor is a 21 inches? I have not seen 20 inches monitors. All I have seen are: 14, 15, 17, 19, 21. Unless you have LCD or plasma type TV/monitor. |
| #7 By 1401 (69.27.196.125) at 3/16/2006 11:34:58 AM |
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nope - it's a 20 inch monitor - wide aspect ratio - yes a LCD flat panel not CRT
Dell 2005FPW |
| #8 By 2960 (68.101.39.180) at 3/16/2006 12:58:03 PM |
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Is there a stand-alone utility?
I should be ok. 4800x2 GeForce 7800GTX 2GB RAM Insane amounts of SATA storage space. 21" Widescreen LCD This post was edited by TechLarry on Thursday, March 16, 2006 at 12:59. |
| #9 By 22962 (12.223.99.215) at 3/16/2006 1:10:52 PM |
| Nice monitor, chris. I looked it up. I like it. |
| #10 By 32132 (142.32.208.231) at 3/16/2006 2:10:15 PM |
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I just got a couple of Samsung 204B 20" monitors.
1600 x 1200 and 5ms refresh. Sweet. |
| #11 By 3746 (216.16.225.210) at 3/16/2006 2:36:57 PM |
| Well if everyone is honking their own horn then how about AMD 4800+ X2 overclocked to 2.8ghz watercooled, 2GB RAM, 7900GTX 512MB, WD Raptor 74 GB Primary Drive, 400GB SATA Storage. Oh and a Dell 2405FPW - 24" at 1920x1200. I think Vista will run okay - although i might need more RAM :) |
| #12 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 3/16/2006 5:44:16 PM |
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kaikara--that is certainly a blazing machine. I was a bit astonished to see how well Intel's upcoming processor fares, though (relatively low power usage, also). They took their Conroe processor at 2.66 GHz and put it up head-to-head with an AMD FX60 overclocked to 2.8 GHz--for more details, look at:
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=4843&page=1 |
| #13 By 3746 (71.19.43.237) at 3/16/2006 8:25:26 PM |
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#12
Yeah i saw the benchmarks - I am no fan boy and will use whatever offers the best performance. Currently that is AMD. Intel should take the crown if the benchmarks are right on Conroe. I can't see why they wouldn't be as they were done by a few different sites. Should be interesting when Conroe hits the shelves. But competition is good - only makes for better and cheaper hardware for the masses. This post was edited by kaikara on Thursday, March 16, 2006 at 20:25. |
| #14 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 3/16/2006 11:02:18 PM |
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#12, WOW! Conroe looks pretty impressive!
Nice rigs, folks! This one I am on is one of pehaps, too many at home and is mid-range: 32" LCD MCE 2005 - a custom build we sell [hand built by our Chris] 3.2 GHz Pentium D [that now has Conroe-envy] 2 GB DDR II Matrix RAID w/500 GB 0+1 SATA II 6800 w/256 MB DDR3 Dual Tuners and one HDTV Tuner One kick-butt custom media recliner - all at the center of a ridiculously well fitted lab that our crew built for us [I could never thank them enough] |
| #15 By 7754 (65.27.90.2) at 3/17/2006 1:46:47 AM |
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lketchum--I'm wondering how soon we'll see that kind of performance in the Xeon (or more likely, whatever its replacement will be called).
What kind of HD tuner do you use with MCE? You're just using an over-the-air HD signal with that, right? Do you, by chance, run it with an Extender/XBox extender? I'm curious to see how well an HD signal carries over WiFi. I've been pretty impressed with how well the extenders work--it makes wireless cable a reality. I don't know if HD would work quite as well, though--that's a lot of bandwidth for the variable quality of a wireless connection. |
| #16 By 22962 (12.223.99.215) at 3/17/2006 3:52:09 AM |
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Mine is custom built... see the system info:
866MHz 325MB RAM 2 harddrives a TV tuner (will change to a HDTV soon.) dual video cards (one is ATI and other is Nvidia GeForce) 2 dual flat panel monitors (have at least 10 other monitors, will get rid of them soon.) A friend came by my place with his computer so he used my cable connection since he had dial-up connection in his home before i moved out, anyway, his system is newest one which i think he has at least 2ghz and probably about 512MB RAM. I don't remember the rest of the system he has. He got confused and got amazed on how fast mine loads up faster than his computer. He went like "DAMN!"... "How the hell do you do that?" I told him that I keep my computer in good shape. Then he talked to one of his friends online "His computer is REALLY FAST! His computer loads faster than mine. WTF?!" LOL. |
| #17 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 3/17/2006 11:39:45 PM |
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Hey bluvg,
We do some pretty wild things with MCE. I post a lot to help people over at xpmce - ususally for the new guys that I know really need help. Any case...I started product dev three years ago and worked on our first models six month out fom OEM System Builders' ability to sell MCE. The day we could, we sold and pre-sold many units - all very custom. Here's the deal that ech person should know about MCE - with the right set up, the TV signal will scale-up to whatever the resolution capability is of the display!!!!! Just like any high-end scaler, MCE can really push a signal. I use all Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-500MCE dual tuners with the feature, or daughter card adapter to give me the two inputs I want to offer to support the dual-tuners. Both have inputs/outputs. I also use ATI's HDTV pre-DRM lock HD Tuners. I bought each I could find before the lock. I use some pretty slick cases with front mount VFD and re-locate the MCE IR - so they truly are AV like. Now back to scaling. Normally, I set up the MCE to shunt the MCE Shell to component video - because it is frequency based and scales beautifully at 720p or 1080i - a typical set up is a companion LCD for the PC side and a shunt to a large screen. Best of both worlds. In others, I do DVI to HDMI to large screens at 1920 x 960 for 1080i and or a minimum of 1280 x 720 for 720p or one megapixel which is where HD at 720p begins. So many miss the simple math and cannot get it right - pisses me off, too, because a lot of families end up hurt - they can spend a few thousand and do, but can't get competent help. So we sought to serve that market, too and came up with our D.eM.O.N. - Digital eMedia Online Network. Wtih this, we support families with a typical Libertech MCE, and either a 32" LCD, or 42" Plasma - e.g., a 10' or a 14' experience. I use only Polaroid LCD's because they actually make most LCD's for other brands - the panels and DSP's, etc... Plasma, we use only Hitachi and for DLSP, only Samsung - either the 67" or 71" 1080p upscaling versions - these we use for commercial applications, mostly. Yes, we both extend and sling MCE 2005. My favorite is the Linksys with component to a plasma TV. It is astonishing and it scales any TV signal and or recording "up" The Hitachi's can do 1080p, so the MCE does the same! I have an active lab [goal is to run very config my customers do...] - so where I am now, is the center of a pretty large home office, fitted with our domain, Gig layer 2 switching and a complex mixed network where MCE's and Domain systems have to get along - opposite 6 kids from 10 to 27, with only the eldest having moved out last year [we still miss her]. Reason I mention all this is to show - "It is possible!" I'm writing this from the media seats my wife had made for me [as a gift to me she spent all last summer putting together a really nice suite for me - since I live in this office about 20 hours a day (literally)]. In any case, there are two MCE's - one started out as among the first systems - pre-Harmony, later to Harmony then up to Symphony [2005] to perfect that and pre-extenders. More on that in a second. |
| #18 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 3/18/2006 12:19:58 AM |
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All of this is sonnected over one of my own CCOEF's - Clear Channel Open Extended Frame on a part of one of our address spaces, directly to our datacenter and my offices downtown.
Centrally managing all of this is critical - to me, any business, of any type and that is where Microsoft's "Plaftform" really does show what it can do. All use WSUS for updates, ISA 2004 for security and quarantines, and Panda Enterprise for AV and Anti-malware - though on two, I am testing OneCare and Windows Defender. The Exchanges are all at work and connected via RPC/HTTPS [very sweet]. We also have a W-LAN [WPA2-PSK with TKIP] and use 802.11g - the Linksys extender is wired, but we did lab on 802.11a and use that and even for commercial stuff - they play loops of material. We run both charter and dish network and use both direct and IP over ethernet to control the boxes. We use harmony 880's for single remotes - they so rock! Slate Tablet PC's and laptops also are used and make use of the recorded TV. I was going to add Sony's new 400 disc changer and control it via the MCE 2005, but decided to go a different route - and render all our DVD's to a SAN for all to use. That is our next project and we have figured out how to do it for "all" DVD types. MS and Vista's MCE shell will do this natively, by the way, but we're not going to wait. We probably have bought our last MS OS'es for home use. We just can't take what they did to the UI. Sure, I'll run it on one box, because I have to support it... I don't want to go back into that. I do have some cable reference cards and a converter - so if I wanted I can support a user with that need and actually process a native HD signal, or I can scale it any number of ways - I mean, how do you think they do it on the Zoom TV NW for old 50's movies...? It is so easy, and now so cheap, about anyone can do it. Thanks to a very tolerant family putting up with how many hours I worked after I retired the first time to build my company, and the wondeful people I have been blessed to find to work with me in it since, we have not only built a great environment, we did that for each of them, too and have been able to extend what we do for ourselves to many others. Media, our DeMON and MCE are our smallest division - SMB multi-site domains/networks and custom business process management software are the main items we build, host and support, but these are our favorites and our customers, too - see we drop one of these at the home end-point and at the vacation homes, too - so our customers can play as well as they work. |
| #19 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 3/18/2006 12:26:44 AM |
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I love #16's post! I am so very proud that all the systems we built in 98/99 are all still out there running and now with just a bit more RAM and XP Pro they all still rip and feel light.
#16's post means a lot - a man who can build a machine so well that it can still hold its own against all the new gear - I mean, anyone can put a big enough engine on a brick and make it fly... that does not mean it translates into controlled flight. One who can build an elegant and "Smooth" machine from slower hardware....now that is saying something. We do the same for apps - use very low end hardware and grunt our way through the process - hosting murder ona pig - I mean thousands of queries all at once on business analytics dash. We get them to run well there and when placed on production hardware, they just rip. |
| #20 By 22962 (12.223.99.215) at 3/18/2006 4:29:18 AM |
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I also have a 350MHz with 128 MB RAM system. I haven't used this system since I moved. Hopefully I will hook this up and run it soon. It was used by the guests who came to visit me.
I remember that my brother came in town to visit me for his vacation. He asked me that he wanted to use one of my computers. I let him to use one. He was amazed on how fast this loaded up. |
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