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MIKE WENDLAND: Apple iMac is simply the best | |
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| Time: 12:07 EST/17:07 GMT | News Source: *Linked Within Post* | Posted By: Chris Hedlund | ||
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Apple's new iMac running the new Intel Core Duo microprocessor is the finest, most reliable, stable, elegant and intuitive personal computer available anywhere. There. I don't think I could say it any clearer. The new MacBook Pro laptops, which are expected to start shipping Wednesday, will be four times as fast as Apple's previous PowerBook laptops, run cooler and have longer battery life. | ||
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| #1 By 18227 (68.98.159.151) at 2/14/2006 12:33:15 PM |
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>>you will also be able to run Windows programs on these Macs, as soon as Apple
>>upgrades its Windows XP operating system to the new Vista system late next fall Apple is upgrading XP to Vista? Wow. |
| #2 By 24027 (204.110.112.2) at 2/14/2006 12:48:14 PM |
| ...as soon as Apple upgrades its Windows XP operating system to the new Vista system late next fall. Funny, I didn't Apple was upgrading Windows XP to Vista. |
| #3 By 3 (62.253.128.15) at 2/14/2006 1:35:53 PM |
| Have to agree with him, wonderful personal computer....don't get me wrong, I love my Windows PC too, but the iMac is excellent and its a shame it doesn't get more success. |
| #4 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 2/14/2006 1:56:16 PM |
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Fishing for comments, I guess... it worked. :)
I wonder if Steve Jobs went "down to the Crossroads" of marketing. People imitate him, as is glaringly apparent in this article. It seems like there is a lot of cut-and-paste from an Apple press release. "Four times as fast as Apple's previous PowerBook laptops," "the desktop iMacs run twice as fast," "software written for the PowerPC chips that power other Macs runs at about the same speeds as before or even a tad faster," etc. is repeated without any backing evidence (save for startup time... erm, yeah...). And with ample reports readily available that these claims are not accurate, this is really lousy journalism. The juxtaposition of the paragraphs starting with "Apple's switch to Intel microprocessors" and "But the Intel chips on a Mac offer" is particularly interesting; at first glance, it seems like a mistake. But if it was intentional, it suggests that Windows programs might not only run on Macs, but they will run twice as fast on a Mac. First off, dual-core--as with dual discreet processors--does not equal "twice as fast." Even if the Duo slightly bests the G5 core-for-core, it will not be twice as fast. Anyone with a passing familiarity with computer hardware understands this. Secondly, the Duo is available on Windows PCs as well, as are more robust configurations. The iMac is hardly a bad machine, but this article is yet another horrible example of consumer/mainstream tech journalism, and yet another typical example of media journalists fawning over anything with an Apple logo on it. |
| #5 By 32132 (64.180.219.241) at 2/14/2006 1:57:28 PM |
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"will be four times as fast as Apple's previous PowerBook "
Finally the Apple fanboys admit Apple hardware is a slug. They sure ranted and raved when I pointed that out in the past ... |
| #6 By 1401 (65.255.137.20) at 2/14/2006 5:41:35 PM |
| Actually bluvg, we were fishing for losers. Looks like that worked too... |
| #7 By 3653 (68.52.61.116) at 2/14/2006 10:22:09 PM |
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"will be four times as fast as Apple's previous PowerBook"
why do the apple-idiots let steve jobs lie like this? Lets ask the apple lovers at MACWORLD what their testing showed... http://www.macworld.com/2006/01/features/imaclabtest1/index.php For the apple folks that have trouble with numbers, when it averages 1.25x, that means TWENTY FIVE PERCENT GAIN, not a 400% gain. |
| #8 By 3653 (68.52.61.116) at 2/14/2006 10:24:18 PM |
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Chris, nice job calling your READER a "loser". Thats a very interesting technique to build the site.
no digg (hint hint) |
| #9 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 2/15/2006 12:54:28 AM |
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I would be more interested in a comparison between platforms [Wintel -v Mactel] where equal amounts of money were spent, but that is not likely to come from Apple. That would invite platform comparisons where total system performance for the same money could be compared - metering how the two OS'es and applications written for them perform on very similar hardware. One would have to make it fair of course, and either test each with, or without software running that hardens a machine - AV, anti- spy ware, etc...
A lot of the recent press opposite Apple on Intel is based upon "subjective" interpretations - while not scientific, these are very important - "how does the system 'feel', etc...?" Regardless of the move to Intel, Apple still has a big hurdle - the same it has had for a long while - developers and the tools available to them are too few and the choices people have opposite hardware - not just parts, but configured machines, are too few. Finally, from a platform perspective, there are also too few management tools to present Apple as a viable alternative to Wintel based systems and networks. At least for now and with Vista on the horizon, it's going to get worse before it improves. It would be nice - to see it come along and drive even more innovation and effort from the Wintel community - that's the supposition, but the truth is, that competition has always been there - so many choices could not have evolved without it and each OEM has a dizzying array of ATX and BTX choices - all supported by a consistent driver model and development environment that has really moved up with Team System and its variants. That's a tough hill to climb - especially with quad core designs already slated for this year, or early next year. Apple and the other *nix really need to work on one common set of tools - they have to agree on at least that much, or Wintel will never see real competition and Apple customers will never see real choices. Then again, cherry koolaid is my personal favorite - I rarely stray - problem is, a lot of others like grape, or some other beverage. Apple's real challenge is that just not enough people like just one thing and an hour longer runtime on a battery is simply not enough of a reason to jump. |
| #10 By 2960 (68.101.39.180) at 2/15/2006 9:11:03 AM |
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I helped my sister set up her new iMac 20" system christmas time.
It was totally painless (except for the stupid Cox Cable Internet problems, but that was a cox issue with the cable). The Airport Extreme was a dream to work with. The wireless keyboard and mouse were nice, but like many I think the mouse is too limited. The 20" LCD was amazing. MacOS X just keeps getting better and better. TL |
| #11 By 2960 (68.101.39.180) at 2/15/2006 9:13:18 AM |
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If I were to buy a Laptop for myself today, it would be one of the new Powerbooks.
Until about 5 months ago, it would have been a ThinkPad. Not any more. Things have SERIOUSLY gone downhill with ThinkPads since the Lenovo buyout IMHO, though the high T40 failure rates we're seeing were pre-Lenovo. But that doesn't explain the service now. It's terrible IMHO. IBM EZServe used to be reliable. Now it's not uncommon for us to have to send machines back 2 or 3 times before they are repaired correctly. Thinkpad is now off my Radar. TL |
| #12 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 2/15/2006 9:49:34 AM |
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Chris... if you really want me to leave, just say so.
I personally don't mind when ActiveWin drops the occasional Apple/Linux/whatever article on the news page--the comments would be pretty dry otherwise--but there is very little Windows-related content here (unless news on the competition is considered Windows-related). I've always liked and had never considered "leaving" ActiveWin (especially with interesting comments from folks like lketchum--good to see you posting again!), but getting called a loser by someone in your position with the site... that's disappointing, to say the least. |
| #13 By 1401 (69.27.196.125) at 2/15/2006 1:04:04 PM |
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first of all blugv - it was just a joke - don't get your panties in a wad
secondly - come on here and say whatever you want - but be prepared for the jab back at ya - it's all in good nature - but if you can't handle it - then maybe you should go elsewhere... |
| #14 By 1401 (69.27.196.125) at 2/15/2006 1:16:38 PM |
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I thought the comment was pretty apt considering the article was about Macs and Mac users are typically lo... well, that's a whole nother argument.
I'm surprised it didn't dredge kvalheim up from the dead... bawahahahahaha |
| #15 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 2/15/2006 2:30:36 PM |
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Sorry--I misunderstood... looks like I wasn't the only one, though. Anyways, that's good news... looks like fresh panties for me. :)
Where is Kvalheim, anyways? |
| #16 By 1401 (65.255.137.20) at 2/15/2006 4:27:38 PM |
| I think kvalheim is out having his bikini area waxed and his eyebrows plucked |
| #17 By 9589 (68.17.52.2) at 2/16/2006 3:41:39 PM |
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Yeah, right! crapple is crap!
We had to purchase an Apple to check our code against it. That was about 10 months ago. Talk about sloooooooooowwwww, but that's another matter. Over the last month it crashed intermittenly - that is when it wasn't sounding like a freight train with its fan on hurricane speed!. A couple of days ago, it just stopped working altogether. The "best" part is that I come discover that the "warranty" is only good for 90 days from the purchase date - for on site repair! After that, if you want it repaired you have to drag it in somewhere. If you want "extended" service you have to pay $169. It gets better. It turns out that certain early versions of the iMac had video and power issues. This is another way of saying they are going to fail, but Apple won't just do the right thing and tell you and come out and repair it. They wait until you have a problem. Well, it turns out that being the itty bitty computer company that they are, they don't do their own repair work. So, now I am dealing with CompUSA. Ever been in a telephone "d" loop. More to follow . . . |
| #18 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 2/16/2006 10:40:43 PM |
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Ok - this may start a serious bunch of exchanges, but I swear to God it's not about "not" liking Apple, or about liking Windows - it's just about the truth.
Here goes..."The problem with Apple, OSX, *Nix, et al, is not Apple, design, OSX, or any other "thing" - the problem with Apple and its OSX is the MAC user and the Apple base." That is not an opinion, or even mine. First, let's define the word "problem" in the proper context - problem for the sake of my position is to be defined as, "that which causes pain, slows deployment and or costs more money than it should - where said cost is broken off <personally> in my fourth point of contact." Ok, just so we're clear here...my position is not about personal choices, or preferences - whatever they are - so long as they hurt no one else, are fine. So no flaming about choice - stick to the definition used. One of a hundred things we did over the last two days was support a client who began to work with a new ad agency - a MAC centric ad agency. My oldest, yes, my very first paying client, moved to a new ad agency - fully confident, as he said, that we'd be able to help them.... <polite speak for overcome what they are paid to do, but can't> Facts: We have a robust suite of applications that includes a direct marketing engine with a coupon generation and redemption feature set. It's supported by a communications engine and is all nicely inetgrated to a management system for businesses - customers, sales, accounting, collaboration - pretty sweet and flexible and cost me a fortune to build. Ok, so new ad agency opposite a desire to create a compelling news letter for my client's subscribers, builds a page - Quark, etc... all on MAC. typical and perfectly fine. However, said agency does not reveal that the news letter is a) the front for an application - that does not exist, or b) that they can develop, or host - much less integrate. the agency, late base dupon late copy, swears that they will have the letter to me by 8 AM. They ship it at 4:39 PM, with a huge - "we need to see a working comp ASAP" that message they "DO" copy to my/our client. They message they do not copy to my/our client reads: <At 4:39 PM, I have to go....send any messages to - <where they mistype their own addresses (more on that in a moment)>. Ok, copy in hand...oh oh... missing font files and all fonts are MAC fonts - not "Cross Fonts, or Open Fonts" <===reminder to reader, it is to be an actual application...... sent to a Windows centric base of 4,000 subscribers.... Ok, so we convert all for them, and based upon a look at the "page" note - man alive... this has inoperative buttons to our application for scheduling, locations, etc... and a big fat coupon that a) does not exist and b) there is no art for.... 9:49 PM <Reminder to reader that the agency cut out at 4:39 PM after reminding me that it was all "ASAP" - but failing to reveal to the client that they had a) cut out, and b) had sent junk... 11:10 PM after converting all fonts, and rebuilding the page, it was all tied in. A coupon was hand-built and tied in for a call, printing, session termination, validation, redemption and recording. 1:19 AM application tested and integrated with a sender profile and the marketing database with a test DB set up for the agency users - AFTER ARINS Lookups to conform their domain <Reminder to reader that they cut out and sent bad addresses - so test messages had to go out to solve that |
| #19 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 2/16/2006 10:41:12 PM |
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8 AM to 2 PM - over 15 changes to the page were made - including button art
15 more test drops. we made each of them for them in Photoshop - on Windows systems. Two of the MAC users - despite warnings I communicated for a week stating that by default, email clients BLOCK images and links.... still state, but I can't see it!!!!! NO KIDDING. So, we send them over to Mactopia, get them RTF capable clients and while at it....change the application to also send plain text and an http link to a one page web that they can see - JUST as we had recommended a week ago..... In the meantime, we educate them about how to use Cross Fonts, about interoperability, about there own email addresses - see, they do not have an Exchange, compatible IMAP4 clients and no central address list - don't even think about MAPI because that would just fly right over their heads and only one client can use MAPI and none can use RPC over HTTPS.... no no no...they're gonna be Mac Mail baby and POP3 all the way on some freeware send mail crap. Their CEO, a reasonable man... see's all of this, realizes that his users - plying their art in a an area that they clearly do not understand, offers his sincerest thanks and recognizes just how badly they have both performed and behaved. All the while, we are sugar sweet - "inclusive" and I can honestly say, "Professional" and helpful to a fault. Inside we are pissed, but only for a moment - since each and every group of MAC users is the same - they all have the same disease...no platform or people exist but themselves and the rest of the planet can just line up and adapt to allow them to stay just that oblivious to the rest of the world. Did the agency get paid - you bet ya. Did we get anything incremental for the tiny support fee we charge for 27 locations and a bevy of online applications? Nope. Not a dime. Could we? may be - hard to say... Point is, that company should not have been paid a dime. They in fact, should have paid us for the education they received. If this story were unique, I'd be really happy, but it is repeated over and over opposite MAC users and MAC centric companies all the time. I've done it more times than I can count. They just do not produce in the same way as Windows centric businesses. And they are not truly interested in interoperability at all. They live only in what "their" applications can do natively and just stink at thinking "Differently. The Apple camp, despite its claims to being so open and so forward, is actually the most closed minded group of narrow thinking people I have ever seen. they're not "bad" people - just really closed minded and closed to choices - they just don't "aspire" to much at all - again, despite all the hype. I mean, forget what people say. Watch what they do. I see Windows people "include" and "overcome" every second of every day. I just don't see that from Apple users and that is why Apple has bombed as compared to Microsoft and Windows. Ask this - does Apple have a Windows user support site? Nope. Does Microsoft? yuppers, www.mactopia.com who is "inclusive" - who is the more open - to all users of all types? Who has written MAC/Unix Services for Windows? No One! Who has written multiple Open Source, and award winning versions of Windows Services for Unix? Microsoft has! I maintain that it is Microsoft that dares to think, "differently." |
| #20 By 3339 (68.121.101.55) at 2/19/2006 5:31:10 PM |
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"since each and every group of MAC users is the same - they all have the same disease...no platform or people exist but themselves and the rest of the planet can just line up and adapt to allow them to stay just that oblivious to the rest of the world."
That sounds like your problem, not the Mac problem. |
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