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IE 7: What's new in Beta 2 Preview | |
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| Time: 00:52 EST/05:52 GMT | News Source: Channel 9 | Posted By: Jonathan Tigner | ||
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Wondering what's new in IE7 Beta 2 (The Legal Preview )? Well, our Scoble recently sat down with the IE team to find out exactly what's new in IE in its most recent incarnation (called a Preview). Dean Hachamovitch, General Manager of the IE team, leads the discussion. | ||
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| #1 By 8556 (12.217.111.92) at 2/1/2006 2:07:48 PM |
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Grizzly: IE7 is "untied" to a great extent from Windows XP, unlike IE6. This was mainly for improved security. Hopefully, the speed of IE7 will increase as newer builds are released.
It is wonderfully ironic that MS is reversing course on IE integration in Windows. |
| #2 By 7711 (69.253.98.183) at 2/1/2006 3:36:43 PM |
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Grizz...I tried the hosts file you suggested, and it slowed my IE7 to a crawl. When I put back my original hosts file, IE sped right back up.
Also, I find the new version is just as fast (subjectively) as IE6, and faster than my non-tweaked Firefox. This post was edited by jimlat on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 at 15:37. |
| #3 By 7754 (65.27.90.2) at 2/1/2006 3:59:19 PM |
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Montana--I just installed it today, and so far, I'm really liking it for the most part. No speed issues that I've seen... in fact, it feels more responsive than IE 6, but I've only used it on my home machine rather than at work where I use a browser more extensively, and my home machine is significantly faster hardware-wise. Nonetheless, the performance I've seen so far is quite good.
I like the tabs--in some ways moreso than with Firefox (the "close" button on the tab itself makes more sense, and it doesn't come at the expense of space the way it is implemented). Finally, you can save a whole group of open windows as Favorites in one action (though the wording is not as clear as with Firefox). Page Preview and printing as a whole is MUCH better, and I like the zoom feature (though I doubt I'll use it much, but I know others that will). I also like the "Quick Tabs" feature--I have to get in the habit of using it, as I can see it will be helpful for me. As for the downsides, some of the UI is a bit strange to me. I like having a dedicated tabs area as in Firefox, whereas IE 7 uses some of this space for other buttons. The refresh button placement seems logical, but I'll have to adjust to that. I miss the history drop-down for both the back and forward buttons (why they dropped it for the forward button, I have no idea). When you close a tab, it doesn't go back to the most recently open tab. I like the alt key toggle for the File toolbar (not that mouse-free browsing is pleasant, but mouse-free browser configuration is appreciated), but the >> nested drop-down button is a mess. I have trouble all the time with users not understanding the button + drop-down dual button concept. There are some sites not supporting IE 7 yet, also--one reported it as "MSN WebTV browser" for some reason. I also miss Firefox's Adblock and SessionSaver, which I think is a total must-have. I have to agree with Paul Thurrott regarding the "find" function in IE vs. Firefox--Firefox's find is simply much better. All in all, though, a very nice upgrade from IE 6. |
| #4 By 7754 (65.27.90.2) at 2/1/2006 4:33:18 PM |
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Adblock is nice, although I think I am not affected as much since I don't run Firefox with Flash installed. I have noticed that I get fewer popups with IE 7 than I did with IE 6, though; actually, so far, I've received none. I would have with IE 6. However, the one that is a must-have for me is SessionSaver. Firefox crashes on me whenever I login via RDP after locking my workstation locally, so I really don't care much about crashes anymore (although it obviously can't save you for all websites...). If I need to reboot after a patch or something, I don't lose my place, either. Man, I wish they had that for IE!
Why don't you do us all a favor and write those for IE, please? :) What I would really love in either browser is for it to index and cache every site you search, so that you can go back to it later without guessing "which site was that, again?" from your History list. |
| #5 By 20505 (216.102.144.11) at 2/1/2006 6:26:50 PM |
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is anyone else bugged by the fact that ie7 turns on clear type by default.
everything looks fuzzy to me on my lcd monitor. i hope this feature does not show up on the final version wihtout the ability to disable it. |
| #6 By 17996 (66.188.88.180) at 2/1/2006 10:00:26 PM |
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#6 - There are two primary culprits behind popups getting past IE6's popup blocker. These are the ActiveX controls "DHTML Edit Control Safe for Scripting for IE5" and "HTML Document." You can disable these in Manage Addons and then be popup free on IE6. (Makes browsing ActiveWin bearable again.)
In IE7, these two controls, like all ActiveX controls, would be disabled by default. Or, maybe they fixed the problems within the controls themselves. |
| #7 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 2/2/2006 8:18:49 AM |
| oldog, I have installed on 3 different systems, and cleartype was not enabled after the install. |
| #8 By 21203 (208.252.96.220) at 2/2/2006 10:21:11 AM |
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IE7 is "untied" to a great extent
It is wonderfully ironic that MS is reversing course on IE integration in Windows Not the case. Don't be fooled by lessened privilages and stricter COM/ActiveX defaults... it is 100% as integrated as it was. It is still MSHTML.dll and linked via every application that calls it. This post was edited by mram on Thursday, February 02, 2006 at 10:22. |
| #9 By 17996 (66.188.88.180) at 2/3/2006 6:12:19 PM |
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#10 - Let me elaborate on what the "lessened integration" means.
From Windows 98/IE4 through XP/IE6, both Internet Explorer and Windows Explorer have used the same code to provide navigation services, window frame, toolbar, etc. This code was in two DLL files: SHDOCVW.DLL and BROWSEUI.DLL. IE7, when installed on XP, uses a separate DLL for navigation services, window frame, etc. This new DLL is IEFRAME.DLL. Windows Explorer still uses SHDOCVW/BROWSEUI while Internet Explorer uses IEFRAME. Essentially, they took the source code for SHDOCVW and BROWSEUI, copied and combined it, and created IEFRAME. Then, they changed the code for IEFRAME such that it includes tabbed browsing, the new frame UI, etc. They decided to make a separate file for IE so that the changes wouldn't effect Windows Explorer. As a result, after you install IE7, Windows Explorer will look and behave exactly as it did before, while IE7 itself will be using the new components. A side effect is that you can no longer view web sites within a Windows Explorer window or folders within IE. That is, when you type http://www.google.com into a Windows Explorer window, it will now open up a separate IE window instead of navigating within the Windows Explorer window. Likewise, typing C:\Windows into an IE window will launch a separate Windows Explorer window instead of navigating within the IE window. This is what is meant by the decreased integration. |
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