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Time: 00:56 EST/05:56 GMT | News Source: *Linked Within Post* | Posted By: Chris Hedlund

There is a speed war on the web. Browsers compete on many fronts; security, standards support, features and speed. Most people are aware of which major browser fails on three of these, but one of them is still open for grabs. Speed. Many organisations and users try to claim that their browser is the fastest. The Opera site claims that Opera is The Fastest Browser on Earth!. The Mozilla site claims that Firefox 1.0 empowers you to browse faster (faster than what?). Mozilla itself is quoted as being an alternative to Microsoft IE and it's faster to boot. Apple's Safari pages claim that Safari loads pages more quickly than any other Mac web browser (although they failed to show any results for Opera, and their charts fail to show results for pages that contain images). Internet Explorer users often claim that they use it because of its speed, as the alternatives take longer to start and load pages. Opera and Firefox users are quite vocal on the subject, but none of them can actually show any research to back up their statements, ususally just saying "X takes way longer than Y to start" or "my friend uses X and it is much slower on his computer than Y is on mine". Those that did try more than one usually say "X just felt faster than Y when I tried them" (although this may refer to familiarity with the individual user interface - something that I do not cover here). I have even heard people comparing Firefox and Opera, then realised they were referring to Opera 6 (even though historically, Opera 6 is about equivalent to Netscape 4), something that was replaced with a completely new engine long before Firefox even existed.

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#1 By 12071 (203.217.48.162) at 1/18/2006 7:05:17 AM
No suprises then - Opera is confirmed as "The fastest browser on earth" :) and they also make the best/fastest browser for PDA's and mobile phones whilst FireFox keeps getting faster with every version.

#2 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 1/18/2006 9:22:37 AM
FireFox keeps getting faster with every version.

According to the table, though, for Windows Firefox 1.5 is slower than 1.0 in 4 out of the 7 tests. What surprised me, however, was how well IE fared. I thought Firefox would have a marked speed advantage, but the only notable slower category for IE is in scripting. For me, though, I guess part of the perceived difference is that I don't install Flash for my Firefox configuration.

#3 By 32132 (142.32.208.231) at 1/18/2006 11:53:35 AM
IE 7 beta looks pretty good, especially compared to the slow starting FF 1.5 slug, and considering it is hardly been optimized.

#4 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 1/18/2006 12:42:10 PM
"whilst FireFox keeps getting faster with every version. "

I wish I had your versions. My FF 1.1 and FF 1.5 experience is the complete opposite of yours.

#5 By 23278 (12.11.161.5) at 1/18/2006 1:21:56 PM
I'm with ya, Brian. Everytime I've tried FF it's been a let down, it certainly seemed slower to me and it didn't render some of the pages I go to correctly. IE 7, on the other hand, has been a joy.

#6 By 25030 (68.34.14.140) at 1/18/2006 2:52:15 PM
What surprised me, however, was how well IE fared.

Just call it the "integrated into the OS advantage."

#7 By 3 (62.253.128.15) at 1/18/2006 3:03:00 PM
#7 - ohhhhhhhhh you can't state logic on these boards, leave now.

#8 By 32132 (142.32.208.231) at 1/18/2006 3:09:13 PM
#6 "you get poorly-rendered pages in the newer, stricter browsers"

Blind obedience to rules usually does cause problems in many parts of life.

#9 By 37 (68.190.87.184) at 1/18/2006 3:24:57 PM
"I could care less how fast my browser is to start. Well, unless it's IE, what with its lack of tabs and all."

I like fast starts and fast browsing. IE does both faster than FF 1.1 and 1.5 for me. Tabs?! I can get tabs in IE, and have been able to for years. Tons of addons and skins out there.

#10 By 23278 (24.147.235.53) at 1/18/2006 3:34:48 PM
The reason Firefox doesn't always render correctly is Microsoft

Ok give me that email address to Microsoft to write complaints about FF not rendering correctly, thanks.

#11 By 13030 (198.22.121.110) at 1/18/2006 4:44:25 PM
#6: They dumbed IE down so that a web developer could fudge their CSS or table descriptions and still get the look they want in IE.

Sad, but true. Web developers that are experienced won't make the mistake of checking their work in only one browser just like an experienced Windows application developer wouldn't check their app on one computer running one version of Windows with one font size and one screen resolution.

MS has made it so that anyone can throw crap HTML and script togther and IE will render it. Now, everyone is a "web developer"! There is something to be said for standards, quality, and craftsmanship and IE's playing loose with them only hurts everyone.

Imagine if we had the "metric system" and the "IE metric system". There are those MS apologists here that would say, "Blind obedience to rules usually does cause problems in many parts of life." I disagree when it comes to easily followed standards that make aspects of our life reliable and predictable. MS has the resources and brain power to be fully compliant with web standards--they just like being "in control". (Remember, Sun's Java VM implementation versus MS's Java VM implementation? What a bunch of jerks MS was about that...)

Ah, good, I don't have to try both metric socket sets to see which "best" fits the 10mm bolt...

#12 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 1/18/2006 4:49:08 PM
#7, #8--that's not really what I meant. I meant that I use Firefox everyday, and from that experience, I was surprised it didn't beat IE by a larger margin. It would be interesting to see the effects on performance as you pile on the inevitable plug-ins, such as Flash and whatnot. Part of my perceived performance difference, I think, is that I run Firefox pretty bare-bones--no Flash, etc.--whereas I have IE loaded up a little more. I guess the good news is that they're both quite fast, although Firefox has the edge on "scripting," according to those charts.

Incidentally, I think the "integrated into the OS" is a rather lame answer, because it is so vague. People toss it around as some sort of understood small set of implications, but it's a much deeper conversation than that. It implies nothing about relative optimization, for instance, and could actually work towards a performance disadvantage.

#13 By 12071 (203.185.215.149) at 1/18/2006 5:35:11 PM
#3 "According to the table, though, for Windows Firefox 1.5 is slower than 1.0 in 4 out of the 7 tests."
Setting cold/warm start up speeds aside - which don't bother me, especially as the times given were all performed on a P3 800, only 2 of the 5 categories are slower, one being only marginally slower. If you look at Mozilla 1.8 (which uses the new Gecko engine that the next version of FireFox is going to be using) those numbers go down even further. Hence why I said that it's getting faster. That said, Opera is by all counts the leader in the speed category and they also have great standards support.

#4 "I wish I had your versions."
No you don't, don't lie, you hate FireFox.

"My FF 1.1 and FF 1.5 experience is the complete opposite of yours."
And opposite to those in the article too - perhaps your computer is at fault or you've set it up wrong.

#12 Ideal scenario would be for FireFox, IE, Opera and Safari to all have 25% market share or thereabouts... that would clear up all the problems as you could no longer afford to put crap out there that only displays in IE, and you wouldn't have to worry about not using any features that Microsoft deemed unnecessary to implement!

#13 "Incidentally, I think the "integrated into the OS" is a rather lame answer"
Especially when the added advantage of having all your dll pre-loaded still can't bring you close to Opera's timings!

#14 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 1/18/2006 6:14:32 PM
#14, again, that's a misleading argument, because "IE is integrated" is extremely vague. For example, you're plain wrong about "all the dlls are preloaded." Explorer.exe (assuming no 3rd party extensions) loads browseui.dll, shdocvw.dll, shlwapi.dll, and shell32.dll which are used by IE, but IE also uses mshtml.dll, wininet.dll, and urlmon.dll, which are NOT preloaded when Windows starts. However, you assume that no other browser benefits from DLL "preloading" or reuse, which is also inaccurate. Firefox, for instance, also uses DLLs that are loaded by Explorer.exe, and its startup time is influenced by that.

#15 By 12071 (203.185.215.149) at 1/18/2006 9:44:06 PM
#15 "again, that's a misleading argument"
You've got me all wrong, I wasn't making an argument re IE being integrated, I was taking a stab at IE saying that even though it's integrated it's left for dead (speed wise) compared to Opera - and I hope that FireFox can one day match Opera.

"browseui.dll, shdocvw.dll, shlwapi.dll, and shell32.dll which are used by IE, but IE also uses mshtml.dll, wininet.dll, and urlmon.dll"
My apologies, I was under the impression that all but mshtml.dll was pre-loaded by Explorer.exe.

mshtml - HTML Rendering engine
wininet - Win32 API for networking
urlmon - COM wrapper that extends the wininet API's
assuming that the start page is about:blank when you double click on the IE icon it has to load those 3 dll and it's done! All the dll's to draw the window frame and everything in it have already been loaded (i.e. browseui and shdocvw).

"However, you assume that no other browser benefits from DLL"
I didn't assume anything - that's an assumption you're making.

#16 By 32132 (64.180.219.241) at 1/19/2006 1:54:36 AM
"Hardware; 800 MHz Intel Pentium 3, 256 MB RAM"

40 seconds for the script section.

IE 7 beta 1 on my computer it said 13.1 seconds. (In real time it took 35 seconds)

Opera 8.5 - The benchmark said under 6 seconds. (In real time it took 30 seconds).

Claimed difference - 350% / Real difference - 12%

Who got conned?





#17 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 1/19/2006 5:39:47 AM
"No you don't, don't lie, you hate FireFox. "

I hate Firefox for the above reasons. Insecure, slow, horrible interface and doesn't work on MANY pages that I visit. Even in the tests it shows slower than IE. Has nothing to do with the PC's I am running.

"My FF 1.1 and FF 1.5 experience is the complete opposite of yours."
And opposite to those in the article too - perhaps your computer is at fault or you've set it up wrong.

Actually, it's spot on with the article, showing it is faster than FF, but not as quick as Opera. Again, has nothing to do with the PC's I am running.

Not my fault you are in denial.

#18 By 12071 (203.217.48.162) at 1/19/2006 7:24:23 AM
#18 "I hate Firefox for the above reasons."
That's fine, ironic that you're complaining about security and speed when you're using IE, but that's fine. Although you do seem to take it to heart when other people don't share your opinions on FireFox and continue to use browsers other than IE.

"Not my fault you are in denial."
You think far too highly of yourself :) I couldn't care less what browser you use, it's your computer. I was talking about FireFox speeding up from v1 to v1.5 to v2.0 (which will be close to Mozilla 1.8 - hopefully faster).

#19 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 1/19/2006 9:44:27 AM
#16, "I wasn't making an argument re IE being integrated, I was taking a stab at IE saying that even though it's integrated it's left for dead (speed wise) compared to Opera"

And that's precisely what I was arguing against, saying that the argument is way too vague, and that you're going to have to be more specific.

"However, you assume that no other browser benefits from DLL"
"I didn't assume anything - that's an assumption you're making."


Well, let me clarify. You stated: "Especially when the added advantage of having all your dll pre-loaded still can't bring you close to Opera's timings!" The implication here is that Opera doesn't have its DLLs preloaded, but the reality is that it--like IE (and nearly all Windows programs)--also benefits by having some DLLs it uses preloaded by the system. But neither Opera nor IE have all of the necessary DLLs pre-loaded. That's why I'm saying that the simplistic argument that IE benefits speed-wise because of "OS integration" is very misleading.

#20 By 61 (71.251.77.95) at 1/19/2006 10:03:09 AM
Firefox is NOT fast. It has, in MY experience, the slowest rendering engine of all browsers available today.

It's not faster than IE, it uses more RAM than IE, it crashes more than IE, and it has just as many security problems as IE.

#21 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 1/19/2006 10:43:32 AM
CPUGuy--that's something that I haven't found to be true in my case. Firefox crashes on me occasionally, but I have more trouble with IE in that regard. I run Firefox pretty bare-bones, though, so that could be part of the difference. I don't know with regards to RAM usage... with the number of tabs I have open at any given time, I think it's less than if I had that open with IE, but that also could be due to running Firefox very clean. What I do like about IE, though, is that each time you click on it to open it, it starts a separate IExplore.exe process, which is nice from a number of standpoints... in my case, the biggest of which is that if one crashes, it doesn't take out every browser. This is not true of Firefox, which runs as one process. Maybe there is a way to run it separately, but I haven't had the time to look into it.

#22 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 1/19/2006 12:00:51 PM
"Not my fault you are in denial."
You think far too highly of yourself :) I couldn't care less what browser you use, it's your computer. I was talking about FireFox speeding up from v1 to v1.5 to v2.0 (which will be close to Mozilla 1.8 - hopefully faster).

I wish FF was as stable and as fast as IE, and more secure than IE. When that happens, I will look at converting.

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