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| Time: 10:32 EST/15:32 GMT | News Source: E-Mail | Posted By: Byron Hinson | ||
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To revisit an old saw: There are three certainties in life: Death, Taxes and Apple’s plummeting market share. The first to are well worn but the third one only became a truism when Apple announced their impending move to Intel. There are already reports of individuals returning brand new iMacs to resellers because the machines have become suddenly “obsolete.” This is an understandable reaction on the most superficial level but deeper investigation reveals that this notion is a bit misguided. | ||
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| #1 By 2459 (69.22.124.157) at 6/11/2005 11:20:25 AM |
| Slightly OT, but I was just thinking about one downside of Apple going to Intel. Just as I said Apple's dependence on code from the OSS communities would (and has since proven to) open then up to more bugs and security issues, now much of that code will be exactly the same binary as is used on the much larger and easier to acquire x86 OSS OSes. A security issue in OpenSSL, for example, should be much easier to take advantage of on the Mac due to it running on the same architecture (and likely using the exact same binary) as Linux, BSD, Solaris, etc. It would be much easier to create malicious code that affects *n*x and Mac x86 simultaneously. The flipside is that Apple could take advantage of OSS patches quicker as well. Another part of this issue is that more people (malicious or not) may purchase Macs since they can also run other x86 OSes. This might increase the number of targets for the attacker (making crafting an attack more appealing), and provide a platform for easy testing of the attack accross multiple platforms (just multiboot or run a vm). |
| #2 By 1845 (67.172.237.116) at 6/11/2005 1:14:09 PM |
| Well of course they should, quux, but Byron's a Mac head, so what would you expect? ;-) |
| #3 By 3653 (68.52.165.46) at 6/11/2005 7:45:33 PM |
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the more intel-based macs that are sold... the cheaper my dell will become... as more intel chips means cheaper intel prices. thanks Jobs.
i wonder if this transition will actually ever occur. can their desktop business even survive another 18 months waiting for the intel chips? |
| #4 By 12071 (165.228.129.12) at 6/12/2005 7:05:19 AM |
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#5 "The world doesn't need a cheaper Dell"
When it comes to pc's you'd need to look long and hard to find something cheaper and nastier than a Dell! Especially their flimsy laptops! |
| #5 By 32132 (206.116.136.250) at 6/12/2005 12:25:13 PM |
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The only thing that the PowerPC had going for it was Altevec. Other than that a G5 was an overpriced slug fit only for suckers in the Mac cult.
Altevec is gone. Rosetta emulates a G3. R.I.P. Apple desktops. |
| #6 By 9589 (65.191.188.246) at 6/12/2005 10:17:14 PM |
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There is nothing new with Apple dumping hardware and consequently forcing their customers to replace their software. They have done this several times in the past: from the Apple II to the Apple IIGS to the Mac to the Mac OS X and now the so-called Mac Intel.
I got the message years ago when I purchased first an Apple II and then a Apple II GS. Now, they are at it again. And, of course, they are mystified that they have market share of 2% and falling. Jobs is desparately trying to perform another hat trick before his iPods, already falling in sales, become eclipsed by a competitor and the company's earnings and income fall into the toilet again. Up to now, Jobs has been able to convince a small population of the computer buying public that his products are superior despite all factual information to the contrary. With Mac Intel, he will be going head to head with Dell. Ouch! Meanwhile, Microsoft can eliminate expensive programming labor that now creates various Mac software offerings. |
| #7 By 12071 (165.228.129.12) at 6/13/2005 2:27:45 AM |
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#7 "Dell is "cheap and nasty"."
Yes , do you want me to repeat it again for you? Dell is cheap, nasty crap! In particular their flimsy laptops! "So I guess the millions of people who continue to buy them are all masochists?" Why would you assume that they must all be masochists? Wouldn't a more logical reason be that people buy Dell for similar reasons as to why millions use AOL? Then you have people who either don't want to or are unable to put together their own machines, which is all fine, but none of that changes Dell producing cheap nasty pc's! You have some strange logic there with popularity = quality! "I've bought dozens of Dells over the years." And I urge you to keep buying them since you have had a good track record with them. I have known several people who at one stage or another have bought Dell's and I've shaken my head at how much they paid for the cheap components that were thrown in just to save a buck or two so that people like yourself can brag about owning a cheap nasty $799 pc. The best pc is the one you put together yourself, but I understand that most people have neither the inclination or knowledge to do that themselves. |
| #8 By 2960 (68.101.39.180) at 6/13/2005 1:05:08 PM |
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#7 has never serviced a Dell Lattitude LT. I have. If I never have to touch another one again I'll be thankful. These were Sharp Actios machines in Dell Clothing I believe.
As soon as you took the screws out, you had several pieces of eggshell that had to be carefully handled just like eggs. I watched a Dell Tech break two LCD's trying to replace a bad one once. People buy Dell because Dell is a masterfull marketer of cheap computers. I personally look at them a "Successful Yugo" maker :) TL |
| #9 By 2960 (68.101.39.180) at 6/13/2005 1:06:23 PM |
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#8,
Rosetta is NOT emulation. It is TRANSLATION software. It does not need to emulate an entire chip as the old "Classic" layer did. TL |
| #10 By 2960 (68.101.39.180) at 6/13/2005 1:13:01 PM |
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#11,
I'm with you on the ThinkPads. As I type this I"m surround by three older ones. A T20, a T21 and a really old 600e. They are castaways of a T40/T42 rollout. Half the batteries are dead but they all work perfectly otherwise, and they have the best keyboards in the business. No one will ever argue that that I've heard. I'll use them until the LCD's go out, then go get another from the junk locker. You just can't beat a Thinkpad for a business Laptop. Period. The T30 was a bit of an albatros, but they didn't hang around long. BTW... If you have a T30, make SURE you try to use the empty RAM slot before it goes out of warranty. The majority of the one's I've seen have had bad secondary RAM slots. TL |
| #11 By 9589 (65.191.188.246) at 6/13/2005 1:42:57 PM |
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I am not sure how this conversation turned to Dell computers (Dell sells more computers than any other vendor on the planet.) I guess it is to avoid talking about what over priced crap, crapple puts out - ergo their risky change from the PPC to Intel CPUs to avoid oblivion.
Nevertheless, where I work we are approaching 100,000 Dell desktops and laptops. We started deploying them over three years ago and they have provided the best "uptime" of any brand that we have purchased in the past. And, that includes IBM and HP. Dell delivers them already imaged (OS and applications installed) to our specifications depending on which business unit is to receive them. We get terrific prices on the products that we buy from them. |
| #12 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 6/13/2005 4:14:40 PM |
| Personally, I've had great luck with Dell, particularly on desktops. I've seen a couple older Inspirons that have developed "sticky" keys (could be that someone spilled something, too...) and one that had a battery die shortly after arrival (not out of the ordinary, really), but I've been pretty happy overall even on the laptops. My experiences with Apple's laptops are about the same, quality-wise, though I've always liked how the Apple laptops are designed. I've had pretty good luck with Toshibas as well. I haven't cared for the Compaqs, HPs, Sonys, and Gateways I've seen, and I'm not sure what all the fuss is about over the IBMs. It has been a couple years since I've used a Thinkpad, though, so I may have give one another try. But I see little reason to change from the recently purchased Dells. Incidentally, at least with the models lately, I haven't seen a great price benefit by buying through Dell. Once you load them up with features, they are just as expensive as any other brand (except IBM, perhaps), if not more. |
| #13 By 12071 (203.185.215.149) at 6/13/2005 9:52:23 PM |
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#12 "It may surprise you that both Aunt Mary and General Motors lack the inclination to do such a thing"
No it does not suprise me in the least - and if you had read and understood what I wrote you wouldn't have said that! "The kids who trick out their Hondas no doubt laugh at the "cheap and nasty" Hyundai owners" Not sure what the obsession with comparing pc's to cars is but fine, I'll play along. Thanks for describing once again what I've been saying all along. Hyundai makes cheap nasty cars, just like Dell make cheap nasty pc's (especially laptops). None of what you said changes the fact that Hyundai makes cheap nasty cars and that Dell makes cheap nasty pc's! "To say that Dells are "nasty" is sheer elitism " Have you even used a Dell laptop? The thing feels like it's going to break, that's not elitism, that's reality. People are picky for not liking Dell, they just appreciate quality wether it's cars or pc's! |
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