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  Microsoft, EU Agree on New Windows Name
Time: 12:18 EST/17:18 GMT | News Source: ABC News | Posted By: Chris Hedlund

Microsoft Agrees With EU Antitrust Regulators on New Name for Windows Software Sold in Europe

Microsoft Corp. said Monday it has agreed with European Union antitrust regulators on a new name for Windows software sold in Europe. Officials at the U.S. software giant said they had accepted the European Union's offer to call the European version of Windows sold without Media Player "Windows XP Home Edition N" with "N" standing for "not with media player." Microsoft's "XP Professional Edition" will also include the "N" for versions sold without the media player.

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#1 By 19992 (164.214.4.31) at 3/28/2005 1:01:43 PM
You know this will end becoming XP pRoN edition

#2 By 1428 (65.23.226.23) at 3/28/2005 1:40:35 PM
N stands for naked, that's what europeans like

#3 By 1428 (65.23.226.23) at 3/28/2005 2:01:02 PM
When England buys a Windows XP they will ask for a Windows Nudist; Spaniards for Ventana Nudista; and Horacio Gutierrez, that can be half cuban will say: oyeme tu chiquitica, dame una Windosa pelá pofovo. And all because EU want the RealOne viewer. Give them hell Micro.

#4 By 1896 (68.153.171.248) at 3/28/2005 3:32:08 PM
I am curious to see how many copies of "Windows XP N" edition will be sold in the next 6/18 months.

#5 By 15406 (216.191.227.90) at 3/28/2005 4:58:53 PM
I thought it stood for "Windows XP No, we won't cave like the Bush administration did, and when you break our laws we will put the smack-dab on your ass because you are not above the law Edition".

#6 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 3/28/2005 7:47:40 PM
#8, Just like they forbid American owned auto manufacturers from including as standard options things as exotic as 12V power outlets, and gosh sakes alive, carpet in the trunk compartment - we'll have none of that GM! It's an excise tax by proxy and they know it.


#7 By 143 (68.248.131.217) at 3/28/2005 8:41:38 PM
They should have called it the "EU Protectionist Edition"

#8 By 61 (65.32.174.229) at 3/28/2005 11:37:12 PM
So, basically, the EU wants to decieve the customers.

Reduced Media Edition, while not a catchy name, is very correct for what the product is.

#9 By 12071 (203.173.49.228) at 3/29/2005 7:03:20 AM
#9 "Just like they forbid American owned auto manufacturers"
Those poor poor American companies! My heart bleeds it honestly does... perhaps they just need to spend more effort lobbying the right people in the EU like they do in the US - amazing what that can get you!

#11 "So, basically, the EU wants to decieve the customers."
No they want to confuse people by sticking additional characters on the end. What a completely stupid name!

"Reduced Media Edition, while not a catchy name, is very correct for what the product is"
Perhaps if it was Windows XP Media Edition to start with you'd be right, but given that it's Windows XP Home Edition and Windows XP Professional Edition, you're wrong. So far only Microsoft seems to believe that a web browser and media player is an unremovable integral part of an OS. Next the virus scanner and spam scanner will be integrated.

#10 By 15406 (216.191.227.90) at 3/29/2005 10:43:23 AM
I think I'm partial to "Reduced Monopoly Edition" myself.

#11 By 12071 (203.173.49.228) at 3/29/2005 11:49:20 AM
#13 Now that's a far more catchy name =) Mind you, I highly doubt that this 'N' Edition is going to reduce their Monopoly one bit.

#14 "a group dedicated to punishing US companies"
Here's a tissue... seriously take the whole box.

"is the only group that thinks being able to play music or watch a video should not be a feature in an OS"
Come on Parkker, learn to read and comprehend... at least make an effort! No-one thinks that playing music, watching videos, browsing the web etc shouldn't be features of an OS! They should be features, i.e. applications that run on top of the OS rather than being integrated as middleware the way Microsoft like to do things. All modern day OS' should come with the tools and applications deemed necessary for their primary functions (e.g. a cd burning app, web browser, media player etc should be part of a desktop OS but unlikely to be part of a server OS - I don't want a nasty bug ridden web browser on my server, I want as little running on there as possible!). But those same tools and applications should be able to be removed, changed etc. Only Microsoft has this nasty habit of integrating applications and then calling them core components. Oh sure you can install other applications, but the Microsoft version has to stay so you have to keep up with patches for both applications now!

#12 By 15406 (216.191.227.90) at 3/29/2005 12:34:37 PM
#16: and that's fine & good until GM becomes a monopoly with the power to dictate which competitors live or die. It's the MONOPOLY part that you and others consistently (or conveniently) forget time & time again. It's the same principle with the Bell Co's and ISPs. Smaller independant DSL ISPs would not have appeared to help lower prices and spur broadband competition if the Bells (local monpolies all) had the power to block them from using Bell's phone network.

This post was edited by Latch on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 at 12:35.

#13 By 15406 (24.43.125.29) at 3/29/2005 2:14:41 PM
#18: if you wield monopoly power, then you are a monopoly regardless of your market share. This is recognized as bad for everyone except the monopoly and so laws were created to make sure that these monopolies did not use their dominant position to control the market and everything about it. The fact that MS does not have 100% global computer penetration is not a valid argument that they are not a monopoly. As for your statement about choice, you are being deliberately naive. Yes, I suppose I have the choice to do all my computing on a Timex-Sinclair ZX-1, but if I want to interact with the vast majority of people on the planet, then I'm stuck using Windows unless all I do is email or web surfing. Open standards for file formats would change all that, but then we all know that MS only likes open standards when someone else thinks them up and shares them. "Value" has nothing to do with it. Free software that can do the same job as well sounds like better value to me, but what do I know.

#14 By 61 (65.32.174.229) at 3/29/2005 8:39:21 PM
Chris: The fact is that something has been removed, the media player, and as such, reduced media edition is a valid name.

Also, the EU complained that Microsoft is not complying with the directive, as XP N cannot play a movie from within a word document, that is, without a media player installed.

This whole thing is complete BS.

#15 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 3/29/2005 10:29:09 PM
....and....they [the EU] demands that MS fund and provide a means to put all the files they demanded be removed from the OS, right back in again and from a single source.

Like I have said, it is an excise tax being imposed on an American company - for uh...having been successful.

If such practices were restricted to this one area alone, it would be bad enough; however, such practices are quite common. "Anyone remember the carrot riots in France?" "How about riots, bombings and kidnappings related to North Sea Cod exclusions from trade agreements? <as the EFTA and EG struggled circa 1970-73>"

This is protectionist nonsense where American companies help pay for an ill conceived cradle to grave set of social entitlements and policies - can a brother have a "Bovine Scatology?"


This post was edited by lketchum on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 at 22:29.

#16 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 3/29/2005 10:31:45 PM
One thing it also signals is that MS's digital media initiatives are better than others - in most cases individually, and certainly in aggregate.

In the end, MS's "persistent consistency" will win out.

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