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  Microsoft yielding to IE standards pressure?
Time: 00:01 EST/05:01 GMT | News Source: CNET | Posted By: Chris Hedlund

After a years-long drumbeat of developer complaints, Microsoft may finally be budging on its support for standards and on key missing features in its Internet Explorer browser.

Microsoft last month broke with a longstanding pledge and said it would release a new version of IE before its next major Windows upgrade. Security concerns catalyzed the shift in plans, and Microsoft has kept mum about any possible standards or feature upgrades that might accompany the security improvements. But a source familiar with Microsoft's plans confirmed a Tuesday report on MicrosoftWatch that IE developers, who have code-named their project Rincon, are at work on non-security features and standards support, including tabbed browsing, support for IDN (Internationalized Domain Names), improved support for CSS 2 (Cascading Style Sheets) and PNG (Portable Network Graphics) transparencies. MicrosoftWatch also reported that IE 7 will include a built-in news aggregator based on RSS, or Really Simple Syndication.

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#1 By 15406 (216.191.227.90) at 3/17/2005 8:44:08 AM
How innovative.

#2 By 19992 (164.214.4.31) at 3/17/2005 10:53:53 AM
#2- I'd be surprised if many corporations move away from IE. Most alternative browsers just aren't quite ready for the corporate world. For now, IE remains the browser that most help desk staff are comfortable supporting and/or configuring. I just don't see Firefox, Opera, Netscape or any of the IE-derivative browsers making much headway in the corporate space (outside of Unix/Linux shops).

#3 By 16302 (64.201.211.161) at 3/17/2005 11:14:14 AM
I just wish that they would put XML in the DOM so that we don't need to use the XML ActiveX object. It is too problematic to install in corporatations with locked down workstations. Other browsers have full XML implementations in the DOM and I think it is time that Microsoft also embraced this industry standard.

#4 By 15406 (216.191.227.90) at 3/17/2005 1:07:08 PM
#3: "Most alternative browsers just aren't quite ready for the corporate world." Oh? How is that? They haven't quite reached the MS pinnacle of browser insecurity? Or does the entire business world rely on activex browser plugins, since that's the only tangible difference between IE and the other browsers? More likely, there is no impetus to install another browser when IE is bolted into every version of Windows. It's called bundling, and with most users there's no need to look at the competition for something better if what you already have is good enough. It's like on TV where the network puts a new show right after their most popular so that the new show can benefit from the holdover audience. IE wouldn't have a 90% share (and falling) of the market if it was a seperate download.

#5 By 2960 (156.80.64.60) at 3/17/2005 1:48:43 PM
#5,

"Or does the entire business world rely on activex browser plugins, since that's the only tangible difference between IE and the other browsers?"

Unfortunately, that is a big part of it.

ActiveX was a BAD idea that has gotten seriously out of hand.

IMHO.

TL

#6 By 19992 (164.214.4.31) at 3/17/2005 2:07:01 PM
#5 "Most alternative browsers just aren't quite ready for the corporate world." Oh? How is that? They haven't quite reached the MS pinnacle of browser insecurity?

I made no claims of browser security or insecurity. Here is why I don't think many corporations will be jumping off of IE anytime soon.

1) Easily administered and locked down via GPOs.

2) Updates are easily collected via SuS and pushed to client workstations.

3) Most help desk support staff have been using IE since version 5.0 - they've had quite a while to get used to the interface.

More likely, there is no impetus to install another browser when IE is bolted into every version of Windows.

I'm sure that is what tipped the scales for some smaller organizations. Most of the larger companies I've worked at take their time to decide to make a switch in software platforms. A simple matter of including the browser with the OS wouldn't have done it.

It's called bundling

I never would have guessed.

IE wouldn't have a 90% share (and falling) of the market if it was a seperate download.

IIRC, IE was already taking over the browser market as a seperate download before MS ever added it to the OS.


EDIT - for the record, I'm a Firefox user.

This post was edited by happyguy on Thursday, March 17, 2005 at 14:09.

#7 By 19992 (164.214.4.31) at 3/17/2005 2:37:37 PM
#8 We also standardized on NS. Unfortunately we still have to support it due to the Unix terminals we've got in place (3000+). Since we've got some critical apps that only work w/ Netscape (4.79 to be exact) we have to support it in the Windows world as well.

At this point each workstation (Windows) gets IE6, NS 4.79 and NS7.0 and the Unix boxes get IE5.01, NS4.79 and NS7.0

The IE installs are far easier to maintain than the NS installs.

Firefox is a fine browser for home use, IMHO, but it needs to mature a bit more before most corps will be willing to look at it.


#8 By 22601 (69.194.226.220) at 3/17/2005 2:57:35 PM
Although I am a loyal Firefox user, honesty compels me to let you know that Mozilla has discovered that it has to release a Firefox 1.0.2 very soon. Sigh. See http://www.mozillazine.org/ for more.

Firefox is a nice browser, but IMO it needs to mature a bit more, e.g. in its update procedure. (But then, to be honest, maturation is a process that ALL browser have had to go through, so these issues with Firefox should not be condemned as long as it resolves these issues in good time.)




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