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  Growth rate of Firefox usage slips
Time: 11:29 EST/16:29 GMT | News Source: CNET | Posted By: Chris Hedlund

Firefox downloads have continued at a rapid clip, but the growth rate of people putting the open-source browser into action has slowed in recent weeks, according to a study released Monday.

Firefox, which the Mozilla Foundation released in version 1.0 in early November, has seen its U.S. growth rate for actual usage fall by nearly half since its debut, according to WebSideStory, a Web analytics company. The browser's market share grew by 15 percent in a five-week period leading up to Feb. 18, compared with a 34 percent increase within the same timeframe after its debut, according to the study. "This is probably to be expected as we move beyond the early adopter segment," Jeff Lunsford, WebSideStory's chief executive, said in a statement.

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#1 By 10896 (64.140.196.109) at 2/28/2005 12:46:07 PM
Look like Firefox is headed to obscurity like so many have predicted. The IDN disaster has made mozilla.org an international pariah to the web standards bodies.

#2 By 15406 (216.191.227.90) at 2/28/2005 1:15:27 PM
Where's the beef? Lots of words, but nothing about the data that backs up their claim. How many sites do they track, 10? 100? 1000? Growth is growth, but I'd still be interested to see what their sample size is.

#3 By 7797 (63.76.44.6) at 2/28/2005 3:13:05 PM
In other news, Mozilla's browsers global usage share is 8.45 percent according to OneStat.com
http://www.onestat.com/html/aboutus_pressbox36.html

So much for Firefox just being "another Opera" (Opera 1.09 percent)

This post was edited by tgnb on Monday, February 28, 2005 at 15:17.

#4 By 9589 (66.57.197.203) at 2/28/2005 3:45:21 PM
#1, I am just guessing here but the latest from the W3C is this: http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-xforms11-20041115/ . The title of this document is: XForms 1.1, W3C Working Draft 15 November 2004. In the first page of the document, the W3C states, "Publication as a Working Draft does not imply endorsement by the W3C Membership. This is a draft document and may be updated, replaced or obsoleted by other documents at any time. It is inappropriate to cite this document as other than work in progress."

So, you'll forgive us if we don't go all agog at your accusations. It appears that the x-forms specificiations is in the equivalent of a "alpha" software version. Some "standard"; some "threat". lol

By the way, according to a "Freshmeat" article, XForms are (http://freshmeat.net/projects/xforms/ ), "XForms is a GUI toolkit based on Xlib. It comes with a rich set of objects such as buttons, browsers, sliders, and menus integrated into an elegant event/object callback execution model that allows for fast and easy construction of X applications. In addition, the library supports loading and writing images, format conversion, and simple image processing. It consists of a flexible set of C-routines that can be used in C and C++ programs, is efficient and portable, and runs on all major Unix platforms and OpenVMS, OS/2, and Windows NT."

The idea of X applications aren't new. And the reason they didn't take off last time is that they were god awful slooooooow.


#5 By 1428 (66.50.227.6) at 2/28/2005 4:39:06 PM
Years ago I quit using Netscape because all the new available plugins were compatible with Internet Explorer, not Netscape. Today the same is true with Firefox. I have downloaded and tried it 4 times, and my 2 sons 3 each. We decided to keep using IE, it has all plugs and goodies. Even try testing a ADSL line with Firefox and see that the required plugins are not available for the browser. So, out of 10 Firefox download all have returned to IE.
It is not a matter of how many Firefox downloads, but how many are in actual use.
When will the IE 7.0 be ready?

This post was edited by Efrain on Monday, February 28, 2005 at 16:42.

#6 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 2/28/2005 4:47:41 PM
That's impossible! The Firefox zealots assured us that by March, based on the usage increase patterns of December, it would have 70% market saturation.


#7 By 37 (24.183.41.60) at 2/28/2005 6:22:28 PM
Heh..no suprise here.

#8 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 2/28/2005 8:46:03 PM
#1, #3, XAML...it oh so rocks - you ought try it. The entire IBF is amazing...mixing WSS, and web parts from MS reporting/analysis - one can do a whole lot, really fast. On topic, I just don't see another web client working as well as IE as part of a platform. A platform is the basis for building relevant solutions, profitably.

#9 By 13030 (198.22.121.120) at 3/1/2005 10:35:15 AM
I knew the MS apologist club here at AW would be all over this. They're fighting to get the first "nah, nah, I told you so" posts in.

Not everything MS makes always has to be the best. I know this is a difficult concept, but if a grade schooler can get it, then I have confidence that you MS apologists can too.

MS makes great dev tools and good productivity apps and decent OSs, but IE was stale and easily exploited. I switched to Firefox somewhere around the 0.4 beta days and, although it had a few of the usual beta issues, I found it to be much better than IE. Now, in its 1.0.1 incarnation, it is a pleasure to configure and use--no popups, no ActiveX baloney, no continual parade of critical exploits.

Will Firefox ever dethrone IE? Not until it is integrated into the Windows OS. Will it continue to grow? Yes.

#10 By 13030 (198.22.121.120) at 3/1/2005 10:43:59 AM
#10 ...IE as part of a platform. A platform is the basis for building relevant solutions, profitably.

While I would agree with this statement for the most part, however, I would add that a platform can be the basis for lock-in with dead-end technologies. We all know how MS revises its data access technologies every couple of years. What about ActiveX on web pages? DCOM anyone?

In an interconnected era, platforms are important, but standards are more so.

#11 By 10896 (24.25.182.11) at 3/2/2005 8:06:10 PM
Uninstall Fiirefox as soon as you can. Who knows what version you will get automatically? The Linux and Mac users got a download of the windows version of Firefox. This is a project totally out of control and heading for the obscurity that it deseves.

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