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Microsoft Patent Could Hamper E-Mail Authentication Group | |
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| Time: 11:31 EST/16:31 GMT | News Source: eWeek | Posted By: Byron Hinson | ||
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With intellectual property issues already causing defections from its Sender ID proposal, Microsoft Corp. is sparking fresh concerns that IP could even undermine alternatives. This time, a Microsoft patent made public Thursday appears to be broad enough to cover not only methods of the authentication algorithms for which Microsoft wants licensing but also the SPF (Sender Policy Framework) method being touted as a patent-free alternative, according to legal experts and participants in the e-mail authentication working group. | ||
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| #1 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 9/17/2004 12:41:01 PM |
| A bad move, Microsoft. Just give up on this one already. It would be brilliant PR (if the damage isn't already done) to have "donated" an important piece of the solution to spam, if it is well-adopted. |
| #2 By 2960 (68.101.39.180) at 9/17/2004 4:29:29 PM |
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Yes, but Parkker, you spread enough Micro-Love around to make up for EVERYONE!
:) TL |
| #3 By 10896 (24.25.182.11) at 9/18/2004 11:51:06 AM |
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These linux users deserve all the spam they will get in the future.
Protecting the stupid GPL is much more important than stopping spam. |
| #4 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 9/18/2004 10:26:03 PM |
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#4, Why do you think .NET is "just" about Web Services? What an insult to anyone who has worked to implement .NET as part of an ID(P)E - integrated development and production environment. WSE - amazing stuff and "open" in the best context there is, it allows for secure communications between trading partners regardless of which mix of technologies are in use - using "standards" like SOAP.
.NET and its parent Framework are part of the most complete, and profitable [for those using it] environment available. Add its integrated servers, clients and productivity and unified messaging layers with easy to use tools across the board and you can begin to see what I mean. Add systems to manage these against a consistent and effective base of support and you'll have an even clearer understanding of what .NET is all about. It is about an environment and tools that allow one to do as one wishes and without any attachment to Microsoft at all. Just because people can do that well enough and make a profit; employ people and support other businesses that employ people is no reason to invite scorn. I mean, come on out here, step up, compete, and see how well you can respond to client demands - do it with whatever you like, OSS, MS...does not matter - just be prepared to compete with very agile and very powerful .NET <using> competitors that can deliver more value for less cost in less time than OSS is currently able to do. |
| #5 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 9/18/2004 11:51:18 PM |
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Oh yeah - sure do... I remember it was so unnecessary, too - given the volumes of information available about what .NET "is."
That's my point, too...folks need to be a lot more thoughtful, or they're going to have a hard time in this business - the saying, "Be right...don't be wrong..." needs to apply. As regards Sender ID - MS's position is crystal clear - they want to use their connectoids and XML to add a great deal of functionality to the SPF - not control it. They want to be able to give SMB and RPC over HTTP(S) operators and ISA Admins using VPN quarantines the ability to apply GPO's and even updates to ensure those connecting to MS based servers/Networks are compliant - lifting huge loads off of compaines and huge headaches off of users. People need to read and understand the technologies MS is inventing and integrating with and from their servers as only one part of .NET SW needs to be a lot more intelligent than it is and it can be, if people would stay focused and demand facts - not editorial rubbish. People are going to wake up [poor] one day, and realize [or not] that they have been left too far behind to catch up. That is scary to me. To dismiss MS's contributions opposite this work in this was is simply idiocy. It's not just ignorance - it truly is idiocy, because people seem to "want to believe" crap that is simply not supported by facts. #7 - What? MS "has" existing patents for what I have mentioned above. They are seeking to protect them inside of broader Sender ID initiatives. Relax, they are simply trying to protect their "property" - don't you do that? Your home? Car? Boat? PC? Business? Sow reduce the potential of Sender ID to what, _eps DNS Zones and TXT Records [Rule 4, only]? SPAMMERS will be around that due to people who have crap DNS configurations. That is not enough - I want my 40+ male users exposed to strict quarantines to keep their free-porn based hazards off of my networks and their kids' P2P crap out of the same. I for one want MS's tools to build truly effective policy managers. |
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