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Windows XP SP2 Gold Released To MSDN | |
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| Time: 17:58 EST/22:58 GMT | News Source: ActiveWin.com | Posted By: Byron Hinson | ||
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Windows XP Service Pack is now available for download for MSDN subscribers. This is the gold version that was released a short while ago to beta testers. | ||
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| #1 By 21203 (4.5.32.137) at 8/6/2004 6:06:21 PM |
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Actually, this is the full WinXP+SP2 slipstreamed, but MSDN licensed only.
The version released to beta testers was the 266mb "network upgrade". The version on MSDN is the 450mb ISO file. Big difference... especially if you don't deploy MSDN licensed media to volume licensed desktops... |
| #2 By 7797 (63.76.44.66) at 8/6/2004 6:47:07 PM |
| Ugh why do they only offer the slipstreamed ISO on MSDN? That bites :( |
| #3 By 24697 (69.75.172.7) at 8/6/2004 7:00:16 PM |
| I just finised creating the cd from the MSDN iso file and its is not WinXp w/Sp2 slipstreamed. It is just SP2 w/symbols. |
| #4 By 7797 (63.76.44.66) at 8/6/2004 7:04:04 PM |
| I can't believe i'm saying this, but thanks Parkker for clarifying that. |
| #5 By 6175 (68.235.81.57) at 8/6/2004 7:30:58 PM |
| SO all you guys need to either finish downloading or stop... mine is crawling. :( |
| #6 By 24697 (69.75.172.7) at 8/6/2004 8:51:20 PM |
| Just completed two installs of SP2, one fresh using XPPRO slipstreamed w/SP2, another one updated existing sp1a installtion with SP2 ISO CD. Everything went smooth, surprised me cus both PCs are connected via 802.11 G cards. I expected more hassle. WEP activation easiest ever. Maybe it's all in my mind but it seems both are running faster and more responsive than SP1a installations. So far so good. |
| #7 By 16302 (69.11.45.22) at 8/7/2004 12:09:46 AM |
| And the nice thing is that it is blocking the Activewin popups!!!! |
| #8 By 3465 (68.50.165.16) at 8/7/2004 7:06:26 AM |
| #10-I've never seen popups on Activewin. Oh wait, you were using IE. My bad. |
| #9 By 21203 (4.5.32.137) at 8/7/2004 12:19:52 PM |
| #15 Oh wait, Firefox has one less unique feature... |
| #10 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 8/7/2004 2:30:03 PM |
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I am truly impressed with XP SP2 RTM. Just installed over RC2. While the system was fast before, it feels lighter under the mouse. The features are impressive, too; easy to manage firewall, clearer updates, and security monitoring. Moving around even the most feature rich websites has not shown any problems and they seem to render much faster. I guess the only words I can come up with right now are: "smooth" and "evolved"
What an impressive piece of work Microsoft and its people have accomplished - everything is as smooth as great glass. |
| #11 By 2332 (65.221.182.2) at 8/7/2004 2:58:45 PM |
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#7 - Wow, you just won't stop, will you?
First, Firefox hasn't even released version 1.0 yet. Second, even if Firefox had 10x the vulnerabilties that IE has, IT WOULD STILL BE SAFER TO USE. Nobody targets it because so few people use it. Please, do us all a favor and get a clue. |
| #12 By 7711 (68.39.158.191) at 8/7/2004 3:38:00 PM |
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#18...just to clarify....you installed the final RTM of SP2 over RC2 with no problems? I installed RC2 and love it....wasn't sure (and couldn't get a real answer from the MS site) if I could just install over RC2 or had to uninstall.
Thanks. |
| #13 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 8/7/2004 6:47:48 PM |
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Hi #20 - Yes, installed RTM over RC2 - no problems of any kind. It is a relatively new build w/Panda Anti-Virus client component from Panda Enterprise joined on a W2K3 Domain in my home. AV was not even turned off. Ran the installer, which went quickly, and rebooted once.
All is fast. This is a custom rig - P4 C Core, 1GB 1066, 9800XT 256, Promise SX6000 w/128MB buffer and 6 x 200 GB JB WD Drives [two physical arrays]. Next, updated a Tablet PC [ViewSonic 1100] from RC2 to RTM - same drill - no sweat - runs great. Next, updated an HP [highly modified WMCE 2004 system from RC2 to RTM "Harmony" and again, no problems of any kind. Next, updated a stand-alone Compaq nx7010 running XP SP2 RC2 and Panda 7 Platinum [this one is not joined to my domain at home], and all went on fine as well. Nex, updated another custom rig which I had left running SP2 Beta 2. Uninstalled Beta and installed SP2 RTM - all went just as well. Next, updated a Gateway Laptop running as much shovel-ware as I could find...to RTM from RC2 and again, no problems. Next, slip-streamed SP2 RTM to XP Pro OL and did a test install - all desired options were there. Finally, updated two production systems running RC2 to RTM and all went well - these are on one of our domains at work, and again, all went well. Finally, Finally...Chris has been configuring 4 Z series Sony VAIO for one of our clients - all Sony's shovel-ware was removed and then each was updated to RTM, joined, where ./Risrv pushed down both installation and configs for that DOM as well as Panda 6 client and configs for Panda Enterprise. Again, no issues of any kind. All of these systems were used throughout the SP2 Beta and RC development and release process. All but one survived the entire process. The Gateway above, running Visual Studio .NET stumbled between XP SP1a and RC2 - requiring a parallel install to repair the shell and explorer.exe - once done, she ran fine and was updated to RTM without an issue. Based upon this, and the mix of settings and applications we have running on our systems - designed to replicate clients running a broad mix of client, client-server and web applications, we are more confident about a broader deployment. The limited prodcution deployment we have begun, will test how the SP runs under load and opposite intense development and server operations management. |
| #14 By 7711 (68.39.158.191) at 8/7/2004 8:05:39 PM |
| #24...outstanding...that's what I wanted to hear!!! Ready to install as soon as I can get the RTM!!! |
| #15 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 8/8/2004 2:00:53 AM |
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#24, a quick update....
We've been hard at some serious dev work using VS .NET; and VS 2005 BETA on both dev and production systems all day/night under RTM - across many systems mentioned in my post, above. It is amazing [SP2 RTM] - solid as stone and fast as greased silicon. Regardless of what system we've tested, custom worstations, Tablet PC's, various laptops, HP MCE's etc..., it has been markedly better. I tested the new Volume Shadow Copy tools made available to NTBACKUP and the CLI [ vssadmin] and it is really slick - end-user BU solution that borrows from the Volume Shadow Copy Service available for W2K3 Server - pretty cool stuff. I'd be looking hard for management of this from select MS Servers - that'd be a hint, there. Also, even newer and more advanced wireless configuration elements for 802.11a/b/g/n - really strong. This pales compared to the new components in Lone Start for Tablet PC - it and SP1 for Office 2003 will require a lot of posts to properly "go on about." Suffice it to say that they are pretty incredible - especially One Note [even on non-Tablet PC's] - the send to options from Outlook and IE are some of the most useful I have ever seen. I have never been able to clip code and pass it around so fast, or in such a way as to make it very clear what its context was - owing to how one can as quickly amplify the meaning of any information. And in the "Oh man" category, you ought to see VS 2005 [sorry to diress, but MAN!]. I have no idea what people are going to snipe about ref Windows Security as things move forward...I just don't see how it could be more secure - we've taken one test system on a "Dark Ride" to the blacker reaches of the net; watched as crakers pounded on her, and malicious sites tried their best to get around IE and the OS - nein, nyet, no way. IE seems immune to any of the common issues it faced a day ago - even wide open, the OS/IE would not allow a thing bad to happen that one did not clearly know was about to happen via a clear alert - because of the way the roll-back is, er..."rolled" into these processes, even in such a case as where we intentionally did something totally stupid, we were able to recover as easily as one would from a bad driver. Ok, enough....:) SP2 RTM is a stunning accomplishment - Cheers Microsoft! |
| #16 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 8/8/2004 6:57:59 AM |
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Yes, #28 - good point. Just as Microsoft established and has maintained a solid reputation for maintaining an ability to address desires for new features, the company's years old focus on security, reliability and manageability have become its standards and will manifest themselves as the status quo.
Its willingness to slow projects most important to it and rededicate itself to protecting its customers and the software they already have says a great deal about Microsoft as a responsible company sincerely interested in its customers. |
| #17 By 2332 (65.221.182.2) at 8/8/2004 12:50:44 PM |
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#22 - I guess I'm forced to the conclusions that you are an idiot.
Anybody who actually claims that a browser with less than 1% market share is targeted as much as a browser with 95% market share is an idiot. Simple as that. |
| #18 By 1868 (141.133.144.10) at 8/8/2004 1:59:12 PM |
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Man, I love to be a success story about SP2 and well now I am but arghhhh. I tried to install the RTM from MSDN universal and it installed and then froze on the "running processes after installation", complete freeze so I waited for an hour. Nothing. Restarted my machine and it popped up saying SP2 needed to be removed because my system wasn't stable. So I removed it and reboot. Second time round I tried installing, worked like a charm. I'm running SP2 and it's very nice.
I don't like that it failed to finish installing on the first try but it was very easy to get rid of it and then try again. So, all in all, I have no idea what failed but now it works and it wasn't too painful, I was just hoping it would be more pleasureful. One thing to note. SYMANTEC IS CRAP! I upgraded and I'm running norton antivirus with the latest defs and updates and still Security Center can't pick it up. Shame on you Symantec, shame on your lousy devs, Microsoft has been on your butts about this for months. Arggggh. This post was edited by Zeo01 on Sunday, August 08, 2004 at 14:00. |
| #19 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 8/8/2004 11:35:03 PM |
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Uhhh...I can appreciate those responding to the Firefox/alternative browser posts - hard to let those posts go unchallenged; however, I'm still struggling to see the relevance of mentioning Firefox in the context of the release of Microsoft's Windows XP SP2 to manufacturing...
From the persepctive of the ActiveWin site operators, posting material relevant to, well, Windows...it would see out of context. Perhaps an ActiveIE, or ActiveMozilla, or ActiveOnlineSecurity would be a more appropriate channel. Directly addressing the Firefox posters: I have to ask, "exactly how closely have you followed the trustworthy computing initiative; the development of XP SP2 as part of that initiative, and the depth and significance of XP SP2 technically?" If one were to take a purely computer science driven assessment of XP SP2, they would have no choice but to conclude that it consititutes the most significant advancement in operating systems that has ever been undertaken. An already excellent and entirely secure-able OS was taken apart and re-tooled at every level. A system of systems was integrated to harden every aspect of the OS - including hardware independent protections against even unknown Buffer and Stack over-flow vulnerabilities - a scientific analysis of that component alone [Data Execution Protection], would take the truly skilled many months to properly understand, much less code for - that Microsoft worked with the entire industry to make these protections available to all developers speaks to not only their excellence, but general goodness and sincere concern for all computer users. I never cease to marvel at how good Microsoft is - how sincere its people are. I've followed every step of XP SP2, and they really did it - they made good on Mr. Gates' promise - "to himself" - to always make it better and that truly is, "innovative." This post was edited by lketchum on Monday, August 09, 2004 at 00:41. |
| #20 By 9589 (66.57.148.46) at 8/9/2004 2:50:28 AM |
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#24, we are having similar results at our company. We have mostly Dell workstations with still a few thousand older IBM workstations. We have tested the SP/2 upgrade on each of our line of business images and computers and all has gone smoothly. This coming week we will be incorporating it into our new workstation rollouts and readying a company wide SMS upgrade to SP2.
By the way, I have enjoyed your posts of real world integration of Microsoft products. Keep it up! |
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