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  What You Should Know About Download.Ject
Time: 00:06 EST/05:06 GMT | News Source: ActiveWin.com | Posted By: Robert Stein

Microsoft teams have confirmed a report of a security issue known as Download.Ject affecting customers using Microsoft Internet Information Services 5.0 (IIS) and Microsoft Internet Explorer, components of Windows. (Download.Ject is also known as: JS.Scob.Trojan, Scob, and JS.Toofeer.)

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#1 By 6859 (206.156.242.36) at 6/30/2004 8:49:37 AM
This was fixed on the server side (IIS) with MS04-011 two months ago.

Why can't administrators get it through their head that they have a limited window to test and deploy a patch? Is that difficult? We do that with the servers here and the workstations.

It's not rocket science, people. Get on the ball.

#2 By 7797 (63.76.44.81) at 6/30/2004 9:56:47 AM
http://www.internetnews.com/security/article.php/3374931

"The U.S. government's Computer Emergency Readiness Team (US-CERT) is warning Web surfers to stop using Microsoft's Internet Explorer (IE) browser."

Fixed server side moths ago doesn't help the user who browses to an infected site and gets his system messed up although he is fully patched because of some flaw in IE that has been known for months and not yet fixed.

#3 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 6/30/2004 11:10:44 AM
Hi, I think #1's point was [and is valid] that had web server admins [all admins for that matter], maintained their patch levels, that there would be no infected sites for people to visit - regardless of browser. While end users have a responsibility to operate their systems [just as they would cars or boats], safely and mindful of others, admins have a special responsibility to get it right and keep it right all the time. The bottom line is that if anyone is to have a publicly facing server of any kind, it has to be operated more like an airplane - against well established procedures for running it responsibly. There is too much at stake and too many dependencies within the global economy for people to be allowed to do otherwise. The truly sad part is, there is so little ability to establish, much less benefit from distinction between those doing it right and those who can't or won't. On one hand it is terribly costly to do it right, little reward for it, and no lasting penalty for doing it wrong. On the other are under-educated business and personal users who have little cnsistent information or resources available to make effective decisions about technology providers - can we rightfully expect that....? I mean a car at 120 KPH that is out of control hurts perhaps a few, or a dozen or so....a PC at the speed of light can hurt millions.

#4 By 7797 (63.76.44.81) at 6/30/2004 12:00:13 PM
" Hi, I think #1's point was [and is valid] that had web server admins [all admins for that matter], maintained their patch levels, that there would be no infected sites for people to visit"

This would be a good point in a perfect world. But as you and I know the world isn't perfect and Admins are sometimes slow to patch. And who can blame them this patch had cause some people several pretty severe problems when it was released.

"admins have a special responsibility to get it right and keep it right all the time."

What about Microsof'ts responsibility to make a secure product in the first place that doesnt have to be patched every month for years on end. Impossible you say? Well you're right, but they could certainly do a better job. XP SP2 is a small step in the right direction but far from where they have to be.
My point is that while you're completely correct that both user's AND admin's have responsibility, Microsoft does too.

When microsoft decided to make a server os that can be administered by an idiot they have to also create a way to keep that machine secure, even if its administered by an idiot.

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