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Time:
11:59 EST/16:59 GMT | News Source:
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Posted By: Brian Kvalheim |
Linux -- fast emerging as an alternative operating system to Microsoft's dominant Windows software --will feature large at this year's Wimbledon Fortnight. Marking 15 years as official supplier of information technology and consultancy to The All England Lawn Tennis Club (AELTC), IBM has unveiled a range of innovative developments designed to enhance the tennis championship.
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#1 By
19992 (164.214.4.61)
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6/8/2004 1:56:23 PM
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I didn't know the Wimbledon web site was running Unix. The article says Linux.
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#2 By
37 (67.37.29.142)
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6/8/2004 3:06:10 PM
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"#3, good point, that's another strike against Linux : if you use it for a web server, it creates hard to navigate sites. "
Why am I not surprised.
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#3 By
9589 (68.17.52.2)
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6/8/2004 5:43:35 PM
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Hmmmm. . . . IBM posts an article stating the virtues of running the Wimbledon site, www.wimbledon.org, on Linux, then you go to www.netcraft.com and do a lookup and discover they have been running the site with AIX for almost a year: AIX IBM_HTTP_SERVER/1.3.26 Apache/1.3.26 (Unix) mod_perl/1.24 17-Jul-2003 129.42.53.150 IBM Corporation and just moved back to Linux today.
Its interesting that as much as they tout Linux, the over whelming majority of their own sites, including www.ibm.com, are run on AIX. See the link at: http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/hosted?netname=IBM-RSCH-NET2,129.42.0.0,129.42.255.255
It appears IBM creates a web site for advertisement value, the French Open is an example, and slaps Linux on it. However, they don't seem to use Linux to run their company web sites. Not eating their "own" dog food. Now that will build customer trust and confidence! lol
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#4 By
20 (24.173.210.58)
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6/8/2004 5:51:15 PM
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If by "fast emerging as an alternative operating system" you mean 6-8 years or so, then yeah, that's "fast".
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#5 By
12071 (203.185.215.149)
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6/8/2004 10:16:24 PM
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#7 Parkker is a blind ignorant FUD spreading Microsoft zealot. Prof. Tanenbaum said "Brown just ignores all the facts and persists in his belief", the exact same thing can be said for Parkker. I mean, have a look at the quote he used in #17, I've included the bit he "accidentally forgot" to mention in bold:
"Linux used ideas from MINIX
MINIX used ideas from UNIX
UNIX used ideas from MULTICS
MULTICS used ideas from CTSS
CTSS used ideas from FMS
In science, all work is based on what came before it. Nothing unusual here. What Linus didn't do was steal the MINIX code. That has been well documented. (http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/brown/codecomparison)"
But don't think for a second that facts will get in the way of Parkker'a beliefs, he'll try misdirection next!
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#6 By
16451 (65.19.16.202)
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6/8/2004 11:33:37 PM
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Tanenbaum referring to Linus as published in http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/brown/
"My only regret is that he didn't develop Linux based on the microkernel technology of MINIX."
and
"He didn't write CTSS and he didn't write MULTICS and didn't write UNIX and he didn't write MINIX, but he did write Linux."
<sarc>Yup, sure sounds like Linus stole Tanenbaum's work to me</sarc>.
Tanenbaum also said "My conclusion is that Ken Brown doesn't have a clue what he is talking about". Well, at least Brown and Parkker have something in common.
This post was edited by RH7.3 on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 at 23:35.
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#7 By
16451 (65.19.16.202)
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6/8/2004 11:47:54 PM
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>>> And Multics was developed for a Space Ship game!
Yes, and aliens abducted and impregnated Elvis.
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#8 By
9589 (68.17.52.2)
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6/9/2004 9:19:14 AM
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And, msucks is just a copy of another whining OSS zealot - an imitation really. By the definition of invention, msucks hasn't invented anything. Maybe, he/she has invented saying stupid things, but that's about it!
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#9 By
135 (209.180.28.6)
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6/9/2004 10:59:16 AM
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kabuki - "In science, all work is based on what came before it. "
Wait a minute. Are you claiming that not only didn't Linux innovate, but that this is perfectly reasonable behavior? That contradicts what you Linux zealots have argued in the past.
Linux zealots argue like Republicans, they aren't consistent they just make shit up to try to discredit the opposition.
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#10 By
12071 (203.217.20.58)
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6/9/2004 12:13:30 PM
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#30 soda, the bit between the quotes (they look like this " ") is a quote (go look up the definition of a quote if you're confused - and whilst you're there look up the definition of innovate and invent since you seem to have the same amount of trouble as a few other people here in being able to distinguish the two!).
That is what Prof. Tanenbaum stated, and he is right, people always build upon other's ideas. So I am not claiming that Linux didn't innovate - it did - it took an existing idea and did it in a slightly different way. It wasn't an invention, but it was most certainly an innovation - after all if Microsoft can call EVERYTHING that they copy and modify an innovation then let's not be hypocritical here!
"That contradicts what you Linux zealots have argued in the past."
Careful when you're throwing around wild generalizations like that. "We zealots" didn't claim any such thing, perhaps once again "you Windows FUD spreading zealots" are putting words in "our" mouths? I've never said that Microsoft doesn't innovate, it does, and so does OSS, the difference between the two is that OSS isn't always screaming and shouting how they are constantly innovating and how everything is a threat to their ability to innovate in the future. Microsoft have innovated in how often they can use the word 'innovate' over and over and over again!
"Linux zealots argue like Republicans, they aren't consistent they just make shit up to try to discredit the opposition."
Not that I'm taking that comment negatively as I'm not American, but given how Windows zealots argue (Parkker being the perfect example) I wouldn't start pointing fingers too quickly if I were you.
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#11 By
135 (209.180.28.6)
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6/9/2004 6:17:44 PM
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kabuki - "the difference between the two is that OSS isn't always screaming and shouting how they are constantly innovating "
Huh? Then why are the OSS zealots constantly coming here screaming and shouting about how OSS is constantly innovating by creating new versions of BIND?
Let's be serious here, shall we?
"Windows zealots argue (Parkker being the perfect example) I wouldn't start pointing fingers too quickly if I were you. "
Yeah, I am a bit surprised Parker doesn't advocate Linux more the way he argues.
Mr. Dee - Bill Joy wrote this horrible editor called vi.
I'm not comparing OS to politics... just the argumentation techniques of the zealots. All True Believers are the same no matter what the topic. :-)
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#12 By
19992 (164.214.4.61)
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6/10/2004 8:45:12 AM
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#36
"Now how in the hell is gonna fund that?"
Easy, he'll just confiscate/steal everyones gold just like FDR did. If I recall correctly it's still on the books that the feds can take our gold and that owning over $100 of gold (bullion, coin and certificate) is illegal and punishable by up to a 10K fine and 10 years in jail.
This post was edited by happyguy on Thursday, June 10, 2004 at 08:45.
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