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Time:
06:44 EST/11:44 GMT | News Source:
Associated Press |
Posted By: Matthew Sabean |
Offering an end to years of distrust and an epic courtroom fight, the surprise deal between Microsoft Corp. and the Justice Department promises to set new rules for the nation's hard-hit technology industry.
Senior Justice lawyers and Microsoft executives decided to press forward without full cooperation from states involved in the antitrust case and provide results of their secret negotiations to the new trial judge, U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly. She has strongly urged the sides to settle since taking over the complex case in August.
Both sides planned to reveal the details of the settlement at a hearing early Friday in federal court.
U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft planned a news conference after the hearing. It was unclear whether officials from the states also suing Microsoft would attend.
The states decided Thursday to ask the judge to give them until the middle of next week to review the settlement, which imposes some restrictions on Microsoft during the next five years, according to people familiar with the talks. The company's behavior would be monitored by a three-person panel. Oversight could be extended two more years — until 2008 — if the company violated terms of the deal.
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#1 By
1124 (165.170.128.65)
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11/2/2001 9:14:51 AM
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OK lets see how well other companies compete agains MS with these government handcuffs.
I think MS will be stronger by the end of 2008 because they make the best software and the government panel will show that all these accusations are unfounded.
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#2 By
1124 (165.170.128.65)
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11/2/2001 10:24:28 AM
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Yea Yea, everyone sux except linux, sun and apple. WHATEVER
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#4 By
135 (209.180.28.6)
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11/2/2001 11:20:59 AM
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Unfortunately based upon what I have seen over the past 5 years, and what I see as being proposed... I absolutely refuse to purchase any computer with an OEM load of Windows.
AOL, et al, are talking about innundating you with advertisements all over the desktop. Personally I think what Microsoft has already put into WinXP is bad enough with the little "Hey do you like this CD? Why not buy it!" which garners my response of "You idiot, I own the CD! grumble...grumble..."
Personally I've always just wanted a plain jane vanilla install of the OS available to me. I'll put on it what I like.
Most of my friends and family feel the same way. What the OEMs put on the desktop might make them money from these third parties, but the installs aren't done to benefit the consumer.
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#5 By
1124 (165.170.128.65)
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11/2/2001 12:11:44 PM
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I agree that this is good for consumers, but I hope we could control the OEMs who put all that junk on your computer. Since I am a MSDN (universal) member I get all operating systems so I usually do a reinstall. The problem here is I end up buying the OS twice. Hopefully we can buy a computer without an OS.
By the way, the only thing new here is the government oversight committee. MS was already doing most of the other thing mention in the decree.
I think this is fair for MS and consumers.
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#6 By
1124 (165.170.128.65)
at
11/2/2001 12:33:46 PM
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#11 What does "plain old OS" mean. No browsers, no media player, no network, no gui? Would this not be bad for all the novice users. The expert user could deal with your suggestion but I would worry about the others. MS must think about their consumers not their competitors. For example, at one time the majority of users did not need a browser, but now I think an OS should come with a one built in(I would even be willing to compromise and say maybe we could leave a basic version in the OS). This is better for the consumers.
I would also like to point out that the government has abandoned this whole bundling issue.
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#8 By
135 (208.50.201.48)
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11/2/2001 7:08:57 PM
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I guess when I think of a plain-jane install of an OS I'm still considering the web browser as being a necessary component. You need a browser on the OS to get a minimal level of functionality, specifically you need it so you can go download patches and other add-on utilities.
But I don't like seeing Outlook Express there because I don't need it. I plan on installing Office with the full version of Outlook. As an example...
When IE4 first came out you could install it with an option that didn't install Outlook. Later on the installs forced OE on you... that did suck, especially when doing a server install.
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#9 By
116 (66.68.170.138)
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11/3/2001 1:33:41 AM
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*double post*
This post was edited by RedAvenger on Saturday, November 03, 2001 at 01:34.
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#10 By
116 (66.68.170.138)
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11/3/2001 1:33:49 AM
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I am sorry is your name Noah Webster? Who are you to go defining what is and what isn't considered to be part of the OS. The definition constantly changes and I am afraid you are living in the past. You don't have to use those programs. You already name alternatives. I for one like the standard Windows desktop. I can be assured that I have access to those core components on millions of windows machines. THat is a good thing.
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#11 By
135 (208.50.201.48)
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11/3/2001 11:10:19 AM
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#19. Yes, a web browser is absolutely necessary.
You didn't dispute that claim at all. All you did was suggest you wanted to replace IE with Opera. Well you are still shipping a browser, aren't you?
What I'd rather see from you is an argument on why a machine should ship with no browser at all. Or better yet, how a user can survive in this modern world without ever having a browser installed onto their system.
For the record, every OS vendor now ships a web browser by default. Obviously Microsoft was correct in bundling a browser in the OS, because everybody else copied this innovation.
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#12 By
1845 (65.0.207.79)
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11/3/2001 8:40:34 PM
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No intending to create a flame war here...Unix systems survive quite nicely with a text based user interface. Should the new Microsoft OS come without GDI, windowing components, common controls - buttons, forms, toolbars, etc.? Or should it ship basically as it was back in the days of DOS but have the ability to address greater memory than DOS could easily. Personally, I think it is somewhat difficult to draw the line on what should and should not be included in an operating system.
Also, for those who buy this "lite" or "stripped down" OS without external applications, they will still need to most of these applications (or all but the UI components) for most Microsoft products to run. Microsoft Office can't run without the HTML rendering engine of IE (or the security infrastructure of IE). Microsoft Help (including all software SDK's) requires IE's rendering engine. BizTalk Server requires Visio, IE, MSXML Parser, and MDAC. The previews of media files in explorer requires Media Player. Messaging with Exchange Server or Office XP requires Messenger.
A Windows without core "external" applications and services - IE, Windows Media Player, Messenger, MS XML Parser, MDAC, GDI, Common Controls will be a VERY different Windows from the one I use everyday. I wonder if that will actually be good for the industry.
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